Author Topic: How do non-sedes reconcile this (Read 749 times)

Caio di Corea · « **on:** January 22, 2009, 08:16:40 PM »

B16 declared that it's possible for unbaptized babies to go to Heaven. But it has been declared as dogma that unbaptized babies do not go to Heaven.

So does it not logically follow that B16 is a heretic?

Caio di Corea · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2009, 08:19:57 PM »

and therefore, he cannot be a pope?

trad123 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:52:47 AM »

Uriel, what is being spoken of is here:

http://www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=73&catname=15

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I would advise you to read some of the Sede (CMRI) information. Baptism of Desire is not something new. Many Sede and other strongly believe in it...so do many a Church founders, Popes and saints... Even some mention of it in the bible. I need to reread my Sede pamplet...Baptism of Desire to find more...been awhile.

Babies don't have the use of reason, so they can't be baptized by desire.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0506867.htm

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A conviction that babies who died without baptism go to heaven was not something promoted only by people who want to believe that God saves everyone no matter what they do.

Pope John Paul II believed it. And so does Pope Benedict.

Dawn · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2009, 06:17:48 AM »

True. The Church has always taught baptize infants immediately. So, if we use the baptism of desire erroneously as Trent points out, The Church has always taught that children achieve the age of reason at about 7 years of age. So, follow the false teachings of Benedict out. Not only are infants being sent to Limbo because their parents are too ingorant/lazy to find out what the Church taught before Vatican II, but they will and do wait like mindless Protestants until the child makes up their own mind and put it off till the child is older. I know personally "Catholics" who are doing this. These children due to the falseness of Vatican II will be denied the Beatific Vision. Their parents will suffer too at judgment. Luckily, God is not hoodwinked by Benedict and Company and Benedict and his band of liars will be punished as well.