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No, there's no "to be fair" here.  Let's stop with this sniveling / blubbering pretense of having "chawity" (as Bishop Williamson called it out).  I'm tired of listening to this crap, where if the guy says that God exists he gets "credit" for it.

That's the same horse manure that typifies the errors of Vatican II.  Well, there's GOOD in all these false religions.

NO.  We do not take isolated truths or errors outside the framework in which they exist.  If someone says God exists, that's not true if that religion blasphemes Our Lord.  And for those Prots who appear to show some reverence to Our Lord, no they do NOT honor Our Lord ... when they deride his Blessed Mother.

This crap needs to stop now or you guys are going to lose your faith and get sucked into the Conciliar Entity just like SSPX is doing now.

Leo XIV is a CONCILIAR MODERNIST HERETIC, and if he utters or mutters a proposition that happens to be true IN ISOLATION, that does not mean it's actually true.

If I saw a spoonful of sugar that contained a lethal amount of arsenic, I'm not going to walk around praising the qualities of the sugar, telling people how tasty it is ... lest they be tempted to give it a try.  I call out the POISON that's in the sugar.

In fact, the more sugar there is in it, the more the taste of the lethal arsenic is hidden so that someone might just lick it all up without even noticing.

That's precisely the tactic of this Conciliar Kayfabe ... so stop falling for this crap.  It's the same thing they used to deceive the Trumptards.  Don't you see that the same people are orchestrating both dramas and using the same tacitcs?  You put an egregious over-the-top Leftist into office for 4 years, so that by comparison Trump comes in looking like a Pat Buchanan type of conservative, and people buy into the playacting.  Similarly, after Bergoglio's egregous / outrageous over-the-top heresy, by comparison this Leo character looks like he's just slightly to the left of St. Pius X.

It's done PRECISELY to manipulate weak minds.  Snap out of it.

Let's take the following proposition:  "God exists, and there is one God."  Oh, yes, in cha-wiaty we must say it's true.

OK, but what if this sentence is in this paragraph:  "God exists, and there is one God.  Jesus Christ was a false prophet and a blasphemer and it was right to crucify Him."

So, is that still true?  Are you going to blubber on about how the first sentence is true and thereby indirectly try to legitimate the vile erroneous whole.

Stop it.  This Leo character is a Bergoglian Modernist.

I thought it would take a Sarah or Burke to fool Traddies, but evidently they can pull it off by installing a lifelong Bergoglian who would never have been promoted by Jorge had he a single Traditional Catholic bone in his body.

Also, this Trad, inc. crap has to stop also, where "ah, if he rolls back Amoris Laetitia and Fiducia Supplicans, then he's some Traditionliast."  What's he rolling it back to? ... Answer:  the same Modernist framework that has been destroying faith in souls since ca. 1965.  So now we're going to swallow that pre-Bergoglian Conciliar religion.

How are people so stupid?  Or is it faithless?

Is there some particular reason you assume these two in particular are doing it on purpose?  I know you’ve argued with other people on here who have argued indult types are always in bad faith in general . So why these two specifically?