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Online Incredulous

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Re: White smoke at Vatican
« Reply #90 on: May 08, 2025, 05:31:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 11:37:03 AM
    Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I
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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #91 on: May 08, 2025, 05:35:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 11:37:03 AM
    Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I

    Well, I could have my mom and my wife elect me pope, and that would replicate his legitimacy.

    Seriously, though, I do feel sorry for the poor guy ... and would rather have had him as Pope than anyone since St. Pius X.
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #92 on: May 08, 2025, 05:37:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 03:05:44 PM
    :facepalm: ... can't believe how stupid people are, including priests?  Yeah, great he's got a name that isn't John or Paul or John Paul.  "Good News".  :facepalm:

    Yes, and the whole gaggle of these apostates also continue to call themselves "Catholic".

    Being the Modernist that he is, would have been better had he dropped the facade and just called himself "Lucifer I".

    What's wrong with his assessment? He's absolutely correct, Pope Leo hearkens back to pre-Vatican II popes, and TAKEN IN ISOLATION is a good thing.
    Ever heard of "start with the good news" or "give the devil his due"?

    As for "What about the big picture, the important stuff, the elephant in the room?" Fr. Girouard addresses it all later in the letter. His letter was excellent and I see zero problems with it. Even more so, there were no errors in it. Certainly nothing worth criticizing.

    Stupid? Not at all. Give me a break!
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #93 on: May 08, 2025, 05:43:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 05:37:55 PM
    What's wrong with his assessment? He's absolutely correct, Pope Leo hearkens back to pre-Vatican II popes, and TAKEN IN ISOLATION is a good thing.

    Therein lies the problem, pretending to take things in isolation.  You could take 95% of Vatican II in isolation and it sounds Catholic.  Good News.  Lumen Gentium teaches Three Divine Persons in One God.  Good News, Vatican II teaches that God exists.

    This is the very type of thinking, isolating "elements of truth", that prevents people from seeing the entire corrupt whole.

    There is no "Good News" about his picking a pre-V2 name, even "in isolation", since the name might actually condition some people to separate him in their minds from the John, Paul, John Paul crowed ... just as Ratzinger did.  So the more they put on their masks, the more deadly and deceptive they become.

    Good News.  This bank robber is wearing a Ronald Reagan mask, and Ronald Reagan was a good guy.

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #94 on: May 08, 2025, 05:49:18 PM »
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    • Ladislaus, just take the L and admit you're wrong about this.

    Here is the very next sentence in faithful Trad priest Fr. Girouard's letter to his flock:

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    "But remember: Benedict XVI did the same and came very close to absorbing the Neo-SSPX. This may very well happen now, especially in view of the Neo-SSPX wanting a new bishop."


    Sounds almost like he was teeing it up, setting it up, almost St. Thomas Aquinas style -- laying out the objection and then taking it apart.

    Was St. Thomas Aquinas at fault by teeing up his arguments in this way as well?

    Yes, the more I think about it, I have to conclude that Fr. Girouard was using a rhetorical device here. IT WAS LITERALLY THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE for crying out loud. You couldn't miss it. This very next sentence totally shoots down the idea that "having a Trad pope name" was truly good news. Do you have no ability to discern? Is your sedevacantism making you that blind?

    This is NOT a case like Bishop Fellay saying "Vatican II is 95% Catholic" or some such nonsense. That is the best way to deceive people.

    Your Sedevacantism is making you prejudiced against good Resistance priests, Fr. Girouard in this case, who have absolutely nothing about them to criticize.
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #95 on: May 08, 2025, 05:57:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on May 08, 2025, 04:23:42 PM


    Seems simple, but I look forward to a qualified analysis  of his coat of arms and other papal symbols he brings forth.

    Per Chiesa Viva,

    Ratzinger’s coat of arms was rife with occult meaning and Bergolio was off the charts with his masonic artwork.
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #96 on: May 08, 2025, 06:34:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 12:39:48 PM
    On wikipedia it says his father was French and mother Italian but the profile of his nose is very semitic.
    His father was of Italian and French descent. His mother was the daughter of Louisiana Creole parents, Joseph Martínez and Louise Baquié, from New Orleans who were of African, French, and Spanish descent. Martínez was Afro-Haitian, and Baquié a Black Creole.[color=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_XIV#Early_life_and_education    [/iurl][/font][/size][/color]
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #97 on: May 08, 2025, 06:37:30 PM »
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    • So what are benevacantists going to be doing? I can see Ann Barnhardt has the vacant see banner still on her blog. Will they finally see that Bergoglio was not the root of the problem? 

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #98 on: May 08, 2025, 06:41:13 PM »
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    • His (hell) eyes, nose and mouth signal racial crypto-jew, likely from his momma's side as her ancestry, by narrative, is so muddled.
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #99 on: May 08, 2025, 06:53:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on May 08, 2025, 05:57:00 PM
    Seems simple, but I look forward to a qualified analysis  of his coat of arms and other papal symbols he brings forth.

    Per Chiesa Viva,

    Ratzinger’s coat of arms was rife with occult meaning and Bergolio was off the charts with his masonic artwork.

    What's really creepy is his motto: in illo uno unum

    Google AI, which knows more Latin than the entire conclave, translates it as: In the One, one; or In the One, we are one.

    Very creepy. Points to the one world religion of antichrist. It's all contained in his balcony speech: 

    https://www.npr.org/2025/05/08/nx-s1-5392318/transcript-pope-leo-xiv-speech

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #100 on: May 08, 2025, 07:15:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 08, 2025, 06:41:13 PM



    His (hell) eyes, nose and mouth signal racial crypto-jew, likely from his momma's side as her ancestry, by narrative, is so muddled.
    If this guy turns out to be the false prophet it would certainly be par for course that he's a crypto heeb. 
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #101 on: May 08, 2025, 07:28:13 PM »
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    • Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

    Report: Critics of Pope favorite Prevost received $150K to remain silent

    Dateline: May 4, 2025

    https://globebanner.com/stories/671154673-report-critics-of-pope-favorite-prevost-received-150k-to-remain-silent
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #102 on: May 08, 2025, 07:45:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 06:53:30 PM
    What's really creepy is his motto: in illo uno unum
    It's a quote from St. Augustine's Enarrationes in Psalmum 127. 
    "Nos multi in illo uno unum"     "
    "Though we are many, in the one [Christ], we are one."
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #103 on: May 08, 2025, 08:04:04 PM »
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    • My guess is that Leo XIV is who Francis personally wanted to succeed him when his time is up. Ideologically very similar, similar backgrounds and ministry.

    His major cardinal sin is being a White Sox fan.
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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #104 on: May 08, 2025, 08:04:40 PM »
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    • I'm not a fan of Westen but here is a preliminary report on Prevost.

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