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Title: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: HeidtXtreme on May 08, 2025, 11:18:59 AM
The conciliar sect has their next Vatican II Pope.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 11:29:02 AM
My guess would be Tagle.  If it's some "conservative", then their mission is to reabsorb SSPX and those types ... and my guess there would be Pizza.

As mentioned, it's naturally impossible that they would get a "Pope" on the second day every single time since Montini ... unless they had already pre-selected who they were going to roll out.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 11:37:03 AM
Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on May 08, 2025, 11:38:00 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VSbPfXv.png)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on May 08, 2025, 11:38:39 AM
I want a pope to follow teachings of Jesus Christ.  
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 11:44:25 AM
I want it to be one of the Resistance bishops, by a miracle.

I hope the new pope isn't Donald Trump.

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Stubborn on May 08, 2025, 11:46:31 AM
I hope the new pope isn't Donald Trump.
LOL
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 11:55:08 AM
Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I

:laugh1:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 11:55:38 AM
So, I feel that there's going to be at least one more bad one before a 2029 chastisement.

Only question is whether they roll out a conservative ... with the aim of reabsorbing SSPX or keep going down the Bergoglio path, say, with a Tagle.

If it's Parolin, well, they just shamelessly planted a Commie/Masonic agent (as endorsed / selected by Schmuley).  Just a few days ago a Mason basically said that both Bergoglio and Parolin were Masons.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WorldsAway on May 08, 2025, 11:59:44 AM
Cool military procession, at least. Were those militaries from several countries, or just Switzerland? Aside from the swiss guard, one group had the swiss flag on their hats, another group was wearing what looked like those  Tyrolean wool hats..but I suppose that could be Italian military as well
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 12:00:08 PM
So, there's that prophecy about the Black Pope and White Pope dying the same night before the restoration of the Church begins.

One scenario is they roll out Sarah, but then the liberals declare him an AntiPope and split off into schism ... that's if this prophecy is legit and if Black Pope doesn't refer to the head of the Jesuits.

That would actually be brilliant ... where the Trads (SSPX et al.) could be reabsorbed under Sarah, and the Leftists would go full steam ahead with the other one.

It was JH Westen who pointed out that every "Pope" starting with Montini was "elected" on the second day.  Naturally speaking that's just not possible (that many time) ... unless the individual had been pre-selected.

Plus, if you believe as I do that infiltrators control the Vatican apparatus, they're not going to leave it to chance.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 12:05:00 PM
I hope the new pope isn't Donald Trump.

Sadly ... might be better than who they end up rolling out.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:08:24 PM
Well ..... I've got the livestream on my phone, and my trad tabs open on computer, and a large Mr. Goodbar candy by my side. 

When they announce the new degenerate-in-chief, I'll go make some espresso .... LOL!!!!

I pray that its the biggest fαɢɢօt, synodal, pagan filthbag possible ... God forbid a fake conservative!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:10:23 PM
As mentioned, it's naturally impossible that they would get a "Pope" on the second day every single time since Montini ... unless they had already pre-selected who they were going to roll out.

No doubt about it. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 12:10:41 PM
Given that it's taking so long ... could it be a super fat guy?  For Roncalli they had to customize the papal vestments (slit them up the back and make other alterations).  Who's the fattest papabile?

Or do we find out that, "oh, the Cardinals put the wrong chemicals in the chimney" ... as they threaten Sarah to step down.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 12:15:00 PM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 12:15:55 PM
So JH Westen called Prevost ... that guy has access to a leaker.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 12:17:23 PM
I can see it now --

Pope Bob, Bobbie Boy, etc. from the NovusOrdoWatch, Traditio set.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WorldsAway on May 08, 2025, 12:18:30 PM
Crowd chanting Parolin?
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Stubborn on May 08, 2025, 12:19:24 PM
Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost is now Pope Leo XIV according to EWTN (https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/may/08/new-pope-conclave-vatican-white-black-smoke-papacy-catholic-cardinals?page=with:block-681ce67b8f082cdfc1daaf31)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:21:15 PM
Who's the fattest papabile?

Burke
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:21:54 PM
So JH Westen called Prevost ... that guy has access to a leaker.

Opus Judei
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: angelusmaria on May 08, 2025, 12:26:46 PM
I wasn't expecting an American....
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:29:08 PM
I wasn't expecting an American....

I've never heard of him. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 12:30:31 PM
Opus Judei

Yep.

Westen was coming up with very concrete details.  Said that the first votes were split between Parolin and Erdő, and then last night he was saying that Prevost had emerged as the front-runner.

How did he know this?

That's also a very long speech to have whipped up in just a few minutes.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 12:33:44 PM
He has already used the conciliar church's favorite word...dialogue 3 times. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:34:31 PM
Yep.

Westen was coming up with very concrete details.  Said that the first votes were split between Parolin and Erdő, and then last night he was saying that Prevost had emerged as the front-runner.

How did he know this?

That's also a very long speech to have whipped up in just a few minutes.

He's a denizen of the marxist swamps of S. America. His diocese is in Peru. Could be a synodal/pachamama/inculturation/gospel of the poor, seamless transition .... 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WorldsAway on May 08, 2025, 12:34:50 PM
Speech sounds like it could have been one of  Bergoglio's so far ::)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:36:38 PM

Let the sleuthing begin ... 

(https://i.imgur.com/gDXQykE.png)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:37:32 PM
Speech sounds like it could have been one of  Bergoglio's so far ::)

I was too busy reading this thread to have bothered to listen .....
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:39:05 PM
Thus far, Mario Derksen ....

https://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bprevost.html
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 12:39:48 PM
On wikipedia it says his father was French and mother Italian but the profile of his nose is very semitic. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on May 08, 2025, 12:40:09 PM
The final pope in The Lord of The World was American.  

Does anyone know anything about him?
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WorldsAway on May 08, 2025, 12:40:24 PM
I was too busy reading this thread to have bothered to listen .....
Building bridges, everyone walking together, welcoming with open arms..the usual
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:46:18 PM
What is the esoteric significance of:

a. The name Leo XIV

b. That he's an American

Surely "b" has to do with a) green lighting and excusing of the genocides in Ukraine and Gaza, along with the utter destruction of the remaining sovereign nations still blocking the ѕуηαgσgυє's path; and b) a total swallowing up of the false church into the greater israel/american empire project. 

So now what do we think of Trump's parading around in pope-drag? Predictive programming? 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Michelle on May 08, 2025, 12:46:34 PM
Building bridges, everyone walking together, welcoming with open arms..the usual
I've read he's a centrist/progressive.   Might be the man to unite both sides?
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:47:06 PM
On wikipedia it says his father was French and mother Italian but the profile of his nose is very semitic.

I just didn't want to be the first to out his nose ......
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Miseremini on May 08, 2025, 12:47:46 PM
On wikipedia it says his father was French and mother Italian but the profile of his nose is very semitic.
When seeing him in profile, he looks very much like Leo XIII.
Was disappointed he didn't address the english speaking catholics.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:48:55 PM
Building bridges, everyone walking together, welcoming with open arms..the usual

It won't be long before he is thoroughly doxxed by the trads.

And it won't be long before he outs himself by taking up "his" pen.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 12:49:31 PM
I've read he's a centrist/progressive.  Might be the man to unite both sides?
Uh oh ....
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Jr1991 on May 08, 2025, 12:53:37 PM
When seeing him in profile, he looks very much like Leo XIII.
Was disappointed he didn't address the english speaking catholics.
He does look a little like Leo XIII. I honestly don't know anything about him. Leo XIII was an intellectual powerhouse. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Against the Heresies on May 08, 2025, 12:56:56 PM
Cardinal Schönborn has just said on Austrian TV that an important topic in the pre-conclave was synodality. Many cardinals emphasized the need for more teamwork at the top of the Church. Schönborn believes this is one reason why Prevost was chosen. Prevost was also his personal insider tip.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Miseremini on May 08, 2025, 12:57:58 PM
Leo the XIIIth reigned when satan was given more power for 100 years.  His time is up.  Will this Leo take him to task?
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Kazimierz on May 08, 2025, 01:09:23 PM
It is now a matter of wait and see, as to what Leo XIV and his pontificate will bring forth. 

I will carry on in my daily prayer life as usual, knowing The Chastisement is on the way, and that any conciliar pope will be in line with what V2 has brought us. 
Will Leo be better or worse than Francis only God knows. I doubt Leo will declare Francis an antipope and throw V2 and all its works into the fire, so from a human perspective and level, I expect little good. 

Kyrie eleison. Gospodi pomiluj nas. :incense::incense::incense::incense::incense::pray::pray::pray::pray::pray::pray::pray::pray:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on May 08, 2025, 01:21:29 PM
What is the esoteric significance of:

a. The name Leo XIV

b. That he's an American

Surely "b" has to do with a) green lighting and excusing of the genocides in Ukraine and Gaza, along with the utter destruction of the remaining sovereign nations still blocking the ѕуηαgσgυє's path; and b) a total swallowing up of the false church into the greater israel/american empire project.

So now what do we think of Trump's parading around in pope-drag? Predictive programming?
Wikipedia says he a mathematician and canon lawyer.  He looks like a good consigliere. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Giovanni Berto on May 08, 2025, 01:22:39 PM
He seems to me to be in the style of John Paul II.

The revolution advances, just not as fast.

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:23:38 PM
So what's doin' in the novus ordo today?

From an online Liturgy of the Hours:
https://www.ibreviary.com/m2/breviario.php

Thursday, 8 May 2025

Thursday of the Third Week of Easter

Tipo: Feriale - Tempo: Pasqua


_____________________________________________

What's doin' in the Roman Catholic Church today?

Thursday, 8 May 2025
https://www.divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl

In Apparitione S. Michaëlis Archangeli ~ Duplex majus

Commemoratio: De II die infra Octavam S. Joseph

________________________________________________


So the filthy novus ordo sect is calling today of all days a "feria."

________________________________________________

God decreed the day that jorge became a stinking corpse; and He decreed what day the new imposter would be presented to an abjectly stupid world. 

God's dates have meaning. 

Looka here, at some of the other Feasts that the Church celebrated since Easter Monday, the date of bergoglio's judgment:

Remember that our God arranged all of this. God chose all of these dates:

In no particular order:

- St. Athanasius: defender of orthodoxy, even unto protracted extremis;

- St. Anselm: defender of the Church against an overreaching king;

- St. George: dragon slayer;

- St. Fidelis: his name is symbolic and he was stabbed to death by protestant heretics;

- The Greater Litanies;

- St. Peter of Verona: αssαssιnαtҽd by Manichaean scuм;

- St. Catherine of Sienna: who discerned the true Pope and got him to return to His Apostolic See;

- Sts. Philip and James: mighty Apostles, one of whom was the kinsman of Jesus, and the Bishop of Jerusalem;

- The Finding of the Holy Cross by St. Helena: mother of he who liberated the Church after 300+ years of dire persecution;

- St. Monica: famous for her persevering prayer in an impossible cause.

- St. Joseph, Patron of the Universal Church, Spouse of the Ever Blessed Virgin and Mother of God; 

- In Apparitione S. Michaëlis Archangeli: Hic est Míchaël Archángelus, princeps milítiæ Angelórum, cujus honor præstat benefícia populórum, et orátio perdúcit ad regna cælórum. Archángelus Míchaël præpósitus paradísi, quem honoríficant Angelórum cives.

From the First Nocturn: Dan. 7:11: I beheld because of the voice of the great words which that horn spoke: and I saw that the beast was slain, and the body thereof was destroyed, and given to the fire to be burnt.

_____________________________________________________

The fake conclave began on the Feast of the Patron of the Universal Church and the putative Father of DNJC. It ended on the Feast of St. Michael, Angel of the Apocalypse, Victor over the devil and his legions, Shepherd of the souls of the Elect. This is not an accident. 

I don't know who this Prevost is. Soon we will know. In fact, he most likely doesn't matter. What we do know, what we already know, what actually matters, is that our God is not far from us. Perhaps the sword of destruction hanging over the ѕуηαgσgυє's head is beginning to materialize in the mirror of the Church's public worship. Please God!  

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Mithrandylan on May 08, 2025, 01:23:42 PM
His theology is thoroughly Bergoglian. But anyone with any sense already knew that with a cardinalate 70% packed by Bergoglio's men, whoever succeeded him would share his theology.

The surprise (shock, even) is that they chose an American.

Something political is clearly going on here. I assume the idea is to have greater influence on English speaking countries.

Likely, Prevost will end up even more reviled than Bergoglio (by English speakers). He shares his politics, promotes immigration, hates Trump and MAGA, etc. but unlike Bergoglio he speaks the language, so he'll be able to upset Americans in a way Bergoglio wasn't. That won't happen over night, but it's definitely a risk.

He might even make a sede out of some of you ;)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:25:51 PM
Cardinal Schönborn has just said on Austrian TV that an important topic in the pre-conclave was synodality. Many cardinals emphasized the need for more teamwork at the top of the Church. Schönborn believes this is one reason why Prevost was chosen. Prevost was also his personal insider tip.

Oh how I pray they are full steam ahead with their synodal model!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Miseremini on May 08, 2025, 01:28:48 PM

PREVOST Card. Robert Francis, O.S.A.

(https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/docuмentation/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_prevost_rf/_jcr_content/parsys/textimage/image.img.jpg/1719047031807.jpg)
Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, O.S.A., Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops, Archbishop-Bishop emeritus of Chiclayo, was born on 14 September 1955 in Chicago (Illinois, United States). IN 1977 he entered the novitiate of the Order of Saint Augustine (O.S.A.) in the province of Our Lady of Good Counsel, in Saint Louis. On 29 August 1981 he gave his solemn vows. He studied at the Catholic Theological Union of Chicago, receiving a diploma in theology.
At the age of 27 he was sent by the Order to Rome to study canon law at the Pontifical Saint Thomas Aquinas University (Angelicuм). He received priestly ordination on 19 June 1982. He received his licentiate in 1984, and was then sent to work in the mission of Chulucanas, in Piura, Peru (1985-1986).
In 1987 he was awarded a doctorate with the thesis: “The role of the local prior in the Order of Saint Augustine”. In the same year he was elected director of vocations and director of the missions of the Augustinian province of “Mother of Good Counsel” of Olympia Fields, Illinois, United States of America. In 1988 he was sent to the mission of Trujillo as director of the joint formation project for Augustinian aspirants in the Vicariates of Chulucanas, Iquitos and Apurímac. There he served as community prior (1988-1992), director of formation (1988-1998) and teacher of the professed (1992-1998). In the archdiocese of Trujillo he was judicial vicar (1989-1998), and professor of canon, patristic and moral law in the “San Carlos e San Marcelo” Major Seminary.
In 1999 he was elected provincial prior of the “Mother of Good Counsel” province, Chicago. After two and a half years, the ordinary general Chapter elected him prior general, a ministry again entrusted to him in the 2007 ordinary general Chapter. In October 2013 he returned to his province (Chicago) to serve as teacher of the professed and provincial vicar, roles he held 3 November 2014, when Pope Francis appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Chiclayo, Peru, elevating him to the dignity of bishop and assigning him the titular diocese of Sufar. On 7 November he took canonical possession of the diocese in the presence of the apostolic nuncio James Patrick Green; he was ordained a bishop on 12 December, Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, in the cathedral of his diocese. He served as bishop of Chiclayo from 26 November 2015. In March 2018 he became second vice president of the Peruvian Episcopal Conference. Pope Francis appointed him a member of the Congregation for the Clergy in 2019, and member of the Congregation for Bishops in 2020.
On 15 April 2020, the Pope appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Callao.
On 30 January 2023 Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Prevost as prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops and presidet of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America.
Created and proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Francis in the Consistory of 30 September 2023, of the Deaconry of Santa Monica.
Member of:

  • The Dicasteries for: Evangelization, Section for first evangelization and the new particular Churches; the Doctrine of the Faith; the Eastern Churches; the Clergy; the Institutes of Consecrated Life and the Societies of Apostolic Life; Culture and Education; Legislative Texts;
  • The Pontifical Commission for Vatican City State.

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:30:30 PM
His theology is thoroughly Bergoglian. But anyone with any sense already knew that with a cardinalate 70% packed by Bergoglio's men, whoever succeeded him would share his theology.

The surprise (shock, even) is that they chose an American.

Something political is clearly going on here. I assume the idea is to have greater influence on English speaking countries.

Likely, Prevost will end up even more reviled than Bergoglio (by English speakers). He shares his politics, promotes immigration, hates Trump and MAGA, etc. but unlike Bergoglio he speaks the language, so he'll be able to upset Americans in a way Bergoglio wasn't. That won't happen over night, but it's definitely a risk.

He might even make a sede out of some of you ;)

Was he "created" by Bergoglio?
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Mithrandylan on May 08, 2025, 01:31:32 PM
Was he "created" by Bergoglio?
Yes
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:34:26 PM
PREVOST Card. Robert Francis, O.S.A.

(https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/docuмentation/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_prevost_rf/_jcr_content/parsys/textimage/image.img.jpg/1719047031807.jpg)
Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, O.S.A., Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops, Archbishop-Bishop emeritus of Chiclayo, was born on 14 September 1955 in Chicago (Illinois, United States). IN 1977 he entered the novitiate of the Order of Saint Augustine (O.S.A.) in the province of Our Lady of Good Counsel, in Saint Louis. On 29 August 1981 he gave his solemn vows. He studied at the Catholic Theological Union of Chicago, receiving a diploma in theology.
At the age of 27 he was sent by the Order to Rome to study canon law at the Pontifical Saint Thomas Aquinas University (Angelicuм). He received priestly ordination on 19 June 1982. He received his licentiate in 1984, and was then sent to work in the mission of Chulucanas, in Piura, Peru (1985-1986).
In 1987 he was awarded a doctorate with the thesis: “The role of the local prior in the Order of Saint Augustine”. In the same year he was elected director of vocations and director of the missions of the Augustinian province of “Mother of Good Counsel” of Olympia Fields, Illinois, United States of America. In 1988 he was sent to the mission of Trujillo as director of the joint formation project for Augustinian aspirants in the Vicariates of Chulucanas, Iquitos and Apurímac. There he served as community prior (1988-1992), director of formation (1988-1998) and teacher of the professed (1992-1998). In the archdiocese of Trujillo he was judicial vicar (1989-1998), and professor of canon, patristic and moral law in the “San Carlos e San Marcelo” Major Seminary.
In 1999 he was elected provincial prior of the “Mother of Good Counsel” province, Chicago. After two and a half years, the ordinary general Chapter elected him prior general, a ministry again entrusted to him in the 2007 ordinary general Chapter. In October 2013 he returned to his province (Chicago) to serve as teacher of the professed and provincial vicar, roles he held 3 November 2014, when Pope Francis appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Chiclayo, Peru, elevating him to the dignity of bishop and assigning him the titular diocese of Sufar. On 7 November he took canonical possession of the diocese in the presence of the apostolic nuncio James Patrick Green; he was ordained a bishop on 12 December, Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, in the cathedral of his diocese. He served as bishop of Chiclayo from 26 November 2015. In March 2018 he became second vice president of the Peruvian Episcopal Conference. Pope Francis appointed him a member of the Congregation for the Clergy in 2019, and member of the Congregation for Bishops in 2020.
On 15 April 2020, the Pope appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Callao.
On 30 January 2023 Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Prevost as prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops and presidet of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America.
Created and proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Francis in the Consistory of 30 September 2023, of the Deaconry of Santa Monica.
Member of:

  • The Dicasteries for: Evangelization, Section for first evangelization and the new particular Churches; the Doctrine of the Faith; the Eastern Churches; the Clergy; the Institutes of Consecrated Life and the Societies of Apostolic Life; Culture and Education; Legislative Texts;
  • The Pontifical Commission for Vatican City State.

Thank you!!! Everything we need to know. Invalid bishop, slithering serpent of the americas, and a creature of Bergoglio. 'Nuff said!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Against the Heresies on May 08, 2025, 01:37:37 PM
Note: Matin Luther was also a member of the Order of St. Augustine
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:40:16 PM
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-853274
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:42:41 PM
https://www.ncronline.org/news/survivor-advocacy-group-sounds-alarm-about-several-papabili-records


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An advocacy group of survivors of clerical abuse is raising concerns about several cardinals who are buzzed about as papabili, or potential popes.

Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests held a press conference Wednesday (April 30) in a hotel next to Pope Francis' resting place at the Basilica of St. Mary Major to announce new information about prominent cardinals the group accuses of covering up or mishandling sɛҳuąƖ abuse cases. In addition to compiling accusations and information for the public, SNAP has filed complaints with the Vatican under Pope Francis' Vos Estis Lux Mundi ("You are the light of the world") laws, intended to confront abuse.

Among those named in the group's complaints are Cardinals Luis Antonio Tagle, Péter Erdő, Robert Prevost and Joseph Tobin. SNAP claimed there is evidence of their ignoring or covering up reports of abuse and seeks full investigations.

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:45:04 PM
https://cruxnow.com/papal-transition/2025/05/papabile-of-the-day-cardinal-robert-francis-prevost

This article defends him, and makes a case for him. Good defense best offense?

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In addition, Prevost is among several U.S. cardinals against whom complaints have been lodged by the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP) for allegedly mishandling abuse complaints. One concerns the accused priest in Chicago, the other two priests in Chiclayo in Peru. There is a compelling other side to that story: Multiple parties have defended Prevost’s conduct in both cases, the canon lawyer who initially represented the Peruvian victims is a disgraced ex-priest with an axe to grind, and while in Chiclayo Prevost was head of a successful diocesan commission for child protection. Still, the mere hint of culpability might be enough to worry some electors.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Miseremini on May 08, 2025, 01:53:40 PM
https://cruxnow.com/papal-transition/2025/05/papabile-of-the-day-cardinal-robert-francis-prevost

This article defends him, and makes a case for him. Good defense best offense?
This one from the college of cardinals, not so much

https://collegeofcardinalsreport.com/cardinals/robert-francis-prevost/
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 01:55:32 PM
https://www.snapnetwork.org/cardinal_prevost_never_investigated_abuse_claims_alleged_victims_say

https://www.snapnetwork.org/six_cardinals_accused_of_covering_up_sex_abuse_in_catholic_church

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/60258014f7ed942fe698d7fb/t/67e4a197084ae61405c15012/1743036825224/Prevost_VELM+Complaint_3.25.25.pdf

https://www.snapnetwork.org/survivors_deliver_vos_estis_lux_mundi_complaints_against_six_cardinals_to_vatican_secretary_of_state_parolin

https://www.snapnetwork.org/greetings_from_rome_a_call_to_action_for_snap_members
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 02:03:36 PM
https://www.andersonadvocates.com/blog/a-priest-a-principal-a-sɛҳuąƖ-predator-how-fr-richard-mcgrath-escaped-accountability-for-decades/


Bro Bug comment on the above article May 6th:


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Editor’s Note: Pope Francis promoted Father Prevost so quickly to the status of Cardinal Bishop of Albano, that, knowing as I do how Pope Francis promotes sɛҳuąƖ perverts and those who protect pedophiles, I did just 15 minutes of research, and presto magico, I found a serial pedophile who is a member of the Augustinian Order, and who was under the jurisdiction of Cardinal Prevost when he was provincial of the Augustinians in their province in Illinois, USA; and who was protected by the future Cardinal despite numerous accusations against him. Here is the story of Friar Richard McGrath by a legal team which represented victims of sɛҳuąƖ abuse. I urge all Catholics to read this.


Bro Bug comment May 8th:


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Editor’s Note: THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS. Provost protected the serial child rapist, Friar Richard McGrath, an Augustinian Monk, like Prevost, in Illinois, and ignored numerous women who had been abused in Peru. For more on this see here: https://www.fromrome.info/2025/05/06/augustinian-fr-richard-mcgrath-the-serial-pedophile-protected-by-cardinal-prevost/

His position on the heretical and blasphemous “Fiducia supplicans” is not Catholic, since he says that Bishops should be allowed to implement it as they want: that is simply NOT CATHOLIC, that is heresy. The Catholic Church is not the Anglican Church where doctrine is up for grabs.  For more information on this see here: https://www.fromrome.info/2025/05/08/cardinal-prevost-is-a-formal-manifest-heretic-approves-of-fiducia-supplicans/

On this basis, I say that Prevost’s election MUST BE PRESUMED TO BE INVALID in virtue of Pope Pius IV’s Bull, “cuм ex apostolatus officio”.
I believe my judgement is shared by the Catholic Cardinals, none of whom were seen on the balconies of the Basilica of Saint Peter for the announcement of the election of Prevost. That is very significant. Cardinal Burke was not present even though he is an American.

Finally, I have listened to priests preach for all my life, as I go to daily mass, when I can; and I can tell you that I have never heard a man preach like Cardinal Prevost, on the balcony today, who sounds like he does not believe anything he is saying. His numerous praises of Pope Francis confirms his heretical communion with him.

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 02:20:58 PM
I just didn't want to be the first to out his nose ......

Have you never heard of the "Roman nose"? Apparently having a bump on the slope of your nose, or a crooked nose, is NOT an exclusively Jєωιѕн trait.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Mr G on May 08, 2025, 02:23:56 PM
He seems to me to be in the style of John Paul II.

The revolution advances, just not as fast.
Could Cardinal Prevost be the first American pope? - LifeSite (https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/could-cardinal-prevost-be-the-first-american-pope/)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 02:24:03 PM
R.A. has weighed in --


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N.B. only the true Roman Catholic Church can elect a successor to St. Peter, not an apostate counterfeit sect that began at the heretical council of 1962-65.

Robert Prevost, Augustinian, born in Chicago in 1955.
BA in Math from Villanova then theological degrees in Rome including a J.C.D.

https://catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bprevost.html

Took the name Leo XIV so most likely Rerum Novarum, On Capital And Labor, and social issues are a thing to him.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120322213048/http://sedevacantist.org/encyclicals/Leo13/L13RERUM.HTM

https://catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bprevost.html

Spent almost entire career in South America and Rome. 

Missionary in mountains of Bolivia, taught in seminary in Peru, Superior General of Augustinians, 'Bishop' in Peru, Prefect of Congregation of Bishops in Rome..

Assumption is through his last office the new widely scattered 'cardinals' were familiar with his name, did not want to go for one of the ranking contenders, so he was a quick 'safe' compromise candidate. Viewed as a 'centrist' in the sect.

Installation on Sunday May 15.

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: SimpleMan on May 08, 2025, 02:28:21 PM
Have you never heard of the "Roman nose"? Apparently having a bump on the slope of your nose, or a crooked nose, is NOT an exclusively Jєωιѕн trait.

Both my grandfather and my uncle had the same kind of nose, and they were neither Jєωιѕн nor Roman.  British Isles stock.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Cera on May 08, 2025, 02:34:30 PM
From another thread:
Fr. Girouard's email to his parishioners and email list

(With permission)

Dear Friends,

Thanks be to God, I had the opportunity to see the new Pope coming on the balcony and receive his first blessing.

The new Pope was born in Chicago, but his last name is French Canadian: Prevost. Possibly his great-grand-father came from Quebec in the late 1800s, like many others, to find work in American factories when times were rough in Canada.

Good News: We are going back to a traditional name of a Pope: Leo. Away with newfangled names like John Paul and Francis. 

But remember: Benedict XVI did the same and came very close to absorbing the Neo-SSPX. This may very well happen now, especially in view of the Neo-SSPX wanting a new bishop.

Bad news: His first message was a promise to continue to move forward after Francis, and look for peace and justice, and work on a Synodal Church. He referred a lot to Francis, and even repeated some of his words. He said the Church welcomes everybody, just like today at St. Peter's square, and we need to dialogue and build bridges. We need to be missionaries of the Gospel. (Fine, but which Gospel? the one of Francis?). In other words: More ecuмenism is on the menu. Except for his reference to the Gospel of St John, when Leo XIV said Christ is the light that dispels darkness, I heard nothing about the need to fight for Truth and against Errors.

If you click on the link of the Cardinals website, you will find more on where he stands. Once again, he is in favor of a Synodal Church. Also, he was accused in 2022 to have covered up the sɛҳuąƖ abuse of 2 of his priests in his Peru diocese, and giving $150,000 in hush money to the victims. Read the whole thing if you want to know more about this new Pope

Picture of Leo XIV and short Biography (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-05/cardinal-elected-pope-papal-name.html): (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-05/cardinal-elected-pope-papal-name.html)
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-05/cardinal-elected-pope-papal-name.html (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-05/cardinal-elected-pope-papal-name.html)

Greater length report on the Cardinals Website:
https://collegeofcardinalsreport.com/cardinals/robert-francis-prevost/ (https://collegeofcardinalsreport.com/cardinals/robert-francis-prevost/)

As you say in English: "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree".

With love and blessings,

Father Girouard



Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Miseremini on May 08, 2025, 03:03:31 PM
Anxiously awaiting +Vigano's assessment.

:popcorn:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 03:05:44 PM
From another thread:
Fr. Girouard's email to his parishioners and email list

Good News: We are going back to a traditional name of a Pope: Leo. Away with newfangled names like John Paul and Francis.

:facepalm: ... can't believe how stupid people are, including priests?  Yeah, great he's got a name that isn't John or Paul or John Paul.  "Good News".  :facepalm:

Yes, and the whole gaggle of these apostates also continue to call themselves "Catholic".

Being the Modernist that he is, would have been better had he dropped the facade and just called himself "Lucifer I".
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 03:07:56 PM
Thank you!!! Everything we need to know. Invalid bishop, slithering serpent of the americas, and a creature of Bergoglio. 'Nuff said!

THIS ^^^
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 03:09:34 PM
Note: Matin Luther was also a member of the Order of St. Augustine

Interesting point ...
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Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: 2Vermont on May 08, 2025, 03:13:05 PM
Meet the 7th Head of the Beast.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: jersey60 on May 08, 2025, 03:19:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sQehkeU.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/9p7Cjlr.png)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: 2Vermont on May 08, 2025, 03:28:27 PM
Could Cardinal Prevost be the first American pope? - LifeSite (https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/could-cardinal-prevost-be-the-first-american-pope/)
Interesting.  So, he is American but was not in charge of an American diocese (like a Dolan).
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: TKGS on May 08, 2025, 03:29:14 PM
An American.  Hmmm.  I guess the cardinals wanted to Make the Vatican Great Again :jester:.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: AnthonyPadua on May 08, 2025, 04:18:10 PM
I will await the next video by the Dimonds, they are perfect for exposing people.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 04:19:23 PM
:facepalm: ... can't believe how stupid people are, including priests?  Yeah, great he's got a name that isn't John or Paul or John Paul.  "Good News".  :facepalm:

Yes, and the whole gaggle of these apostates also continue to call themselves "Catholic".

Being the Modernist that he is, would have been better had he dropped the facade and just called himself "Lucifer I".

Wasn't the Pontificate of Leo XIII considered very long? It was around 25 years. The interminable usurpation of wojtyla lasted 27 years.

Prevost is only 69. A long usurpation looms large.

It's a stretch to suggest the taking of the name Leo has something to do with a projected longevity (within which much mischief could be done), but I throw it out there.

Indeed, the vision of Pope Leo includes a companion longevity - a terrible protraction of time in which the Church is plunged into a horrible persecution and even apparent slavery to satan.

Leo XIII composed the Exorcism to St. Michael, the short form, and the prayers at the Foot of the Altar. In a sense, he delivered the Church into the safekeeping of St. Michael. And Lo! today is his Feast Day, within the Octave of the Patron of the Universal Church.

"They" certainly have intentions with regard to this name "Leo XIV."

"They" certainly do not intend their own overthrow.

Independent of that, the name and the date have tremendous meaning to the Church. May Her meanings gain the victory!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 04:21:40 PM
Have you never heard of the "Roman nose"? Apparently having a bump on the slope of your nose, or a crooked nose, is NOT an exclusively Jєωιѕн trait.

Course I have! I'm a full blooded Italian. My comment was meant to be a joke. Prevost's nose is the spittin' image of an Italian man I know. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on May 08, 2025, 04:23:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QMJu6S5.png)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 04:32:01 PM
Wasn't the Pontificate of Leo XIII considered very long? It was around 25 years. The interminable usurpation of wojtyla lasted 27 years.

Prevost is only 69. A long usurpation looms large.

It's only going to be as long as God permits it.  Could drop dead from the 5th jab booster at any moment or get Lucianied.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 04:33:29 PM
It's only going to be as long as God permits it.  Could drop dead from the 5th jab booster at any moment or get Lucianied.

LOL!!!! But the bad guys never die suddenly!!!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 04:44:58 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxSrQwyB/Antisemitic-Children-s-Book.jpg)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Against the Heresies on May 08, 2025, 04:50:27 PM
Pope Leo III once crowned Charlemagne emperor.
How likely is it that Leo XIV named himself after this predecessor and is thinking of crowning Donald Trump?
Donald would certainly like that. I'm already looking forward to the next AI images from the White House... :laugh1:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Caraffa on May 08, 2025, 04:52:01 PM
The first Baby Boomer “Pope.” It’s quite fitting the Neo-Vatican would pick an American Boomer for that roll. The only other possibility would be someone French.

A preview of what’s ahead:

(https://i.imgur.com/VcF0iey.jpeg)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: angelusmaria on May 08, 2025, 04:56:39 PM
Both my grandfather and my uncle had the same kind of nose, and they were neither Jєωιѕн nor Roman.  British Isles stock.
Well, the Romans were in Britain for a while, I'm sure many in the Isles today have some Roman blood 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 08, 2025, 05:01:21 PM
Have you never heard of the "Roman nose"? Apparently having a bump on the slope of your nose, or a crooked nose, is NOT an exclusively Jєωιѕн trait.
It's not a hooked nose.

Btw, we have several in our family, including my sister, with a " Roman" nose, it used to be an Italian heritage thing.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 08, 2025, 05:04:40 PM
The first Baby Boomer “Pope.” It’s quite fitting the Neo-Vatican would pick an American Boomer for that roll. The only other possibility would be someone French.

A preview of what’s ahead:

(https://i.imgur.com/VcF0iey.jpeg)
I thought Cupich likes little boys in cages.

The St Galen mafia is alive and well on the banks of the Tiber.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 08, 2025, 05:15:20 PM
Pope Leo III once crowned Charlemagne emperor.
How likely is it that Leo XIV named himself after this predecessor and is thinking of crowning Donald Trump?
Donald would certainly like that. I'm already looking forward to the next AI images from the White House... :laugh1:
The holy roman empire was neither.

Just ask our catholic cousins in the east.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 08, 2025, 05:21:38 PM
Was he "created" by Bergoglio?
Meet the new pope( boss), same as the old pope ( boss).
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Jr1991 on May 08, 2025, 05:25:49 PM
The more I read about him, he seems like Bergoglio without the potty mouth and temper tantrums. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 05:26:47 PM
LOL!!!! But the bad guys never die suddenly!!!

Bad guys die when and how God wants them to ...
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 05:29:19 PM
https://www.wmreview.org/p/leo-xiv-prevost
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Incredulous on May 08, 2025, 05:31:38 PM
Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I
:laugh2:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 05:35:09 PM
Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I

Well, I could have my mom and my wife elect me pope, and that would replicate his legitimacy.

Seriously, though, I do feel sorry for the poor guy ... and would rather have had him as Pope than anyone since St. Pius X.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 05:37:55 PM
:facepalm: ... can't believe how stupid people are, including priests?  Yeah, great he's got a name that isn't John or Paul or John Paul.  "Good News".  :facepalm:

Yes, and the whole gaggle of these apostates also continue to call themselves "Catholic".

Being the Modernist that he is, would have been better had he dropped the facade and just called himself "Lucifer I".

What's wrong with his assessment? He's absolutely correct, Pope Leo hearkens back to pre-Vatican II popes, and TAKEN IN ISOLATION is a good thing.
Ever heard of "start with the good news" or "give the devil his due"?

As for "What about the big picture, the important stuff, the elephant in the room?" Fr. Girouard addresses it all later in the letter. His letter was excellent and I see zero problems with it. Even more so, there were no errors in it. Certainly nothing worth criticizing.

Stupid? Not at all. Give me a break!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 05:43:50 PM
What's wrong with his assessment? He's absolutely correct, Pope Leo hearkens back to pre-Vatican II popes, and TAKEN IN ISOLATION is a good thing.

Therein lies the problem, pretending to take things in isolation.  You could take 95% of Vatican II in isolation and it sounds Catholic.  Good News.  Lumen Gentium teaches Three Divine Persons in One God.  Good News, Vatican II teaches that God exists.

This is the very type of thinking, isolating "elements of truth", that prevents people from seeing the entire corrupt whole.

There is no "Good News" about his picking a pre-V2 name, even "in isolation", since the name might actually condition some people to separate him in their minds from the John, Paul, John Paul crowed ... just as Ratzinger did.  So the more they put on their masks, the more deadly and deceptive they become.

Good News.  This bank robber is wearing a Ronald Reagan mask, and Ronald Reagan was a good guy.

:facepalm:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 05:49:18 PM
Ladislaus, just take the L and admit you're wrong about this.

Here is the very next sentence in faithful Trad priest Fr. Girouard's letter to his flock:

Quote
"But remember: Benedict XVI did the same and came very close to absorbing the Neo-SSPX. This may very well happen now, especially in view of the Neo-SSPX wanting a new bishop."


Sounds almost like he was teeing it up, setting it up, almost St. Thomas Aquinas style -- laying out the objection and then taking it apart.

Was St. Thomas Aquinas at fault by teeing up his arguments in this way as well?

Yes, the more I think about it, I have to conclude that Fr. Girouard was using a rhetorical device here. IT WAS LITERALLY THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE for crying out loud. You couldn't miss it. This very next sentence totally shoots down the idea that "having a Trad pope name" was truly good news. Do you have no ability to discern? Is your sedevacantism making you that blind?

This is NOT a case like Bishop Fellay saying "Vatican II is 95% Catholic" or some such nonsense. That is the best way to deceive people.

Your Sedevacantism is making you prejudiced against good Resistance priests, Fr. Girouard in this case, who have absolutely nothing about them to criticize.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Incredulous on May 08, 2025, 05:57:00 PM

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Seems simple, but I look forward to a qualified analysis  of his coat of arms and other papal symbols he brings forth.

Per Chiesa Viva,

Ratzinger’s coat of arms was rife with occult meaning and Bergolio was off the charts with his masonic artwork.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 08, 2025, 06:34:19 PM
On wikipedia it says his father was French and mother Italian but the profile of his nose is very semitic.
His father was of Italian and French descent. His mother was the daughter of Louisiana Creole parents, Joseph Martínez and Louise Baquié, from New Orleans who were of African, French, and Spanish descent. Martínez was Afro-Haitian, and Baquié a Black Creole.[color=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_XIV#Early_life_and_education (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_XIV#cite_note-17)
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Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: anonymouscatholicus on May 08, 2025, 06:37:30 PM
So what are benevacantists going to be doing? I can see Ann Barnhardt has the vacant see banner still on her blog. Will they finally see that Bergoglio was not the root of the problem? 

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 08, 2025, 06:41:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vlhadgv.png)


His (hell) eyes, nose and mouth signal racial crypto-jew, likely from his momma's side as her ancestry, by narrative, is so muddled.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 06:53:30 PM
Seems simple, but I look forward to a qualified analysis  of his coat of arms and other papal symbols he brings forth.

Per Chiesa Viva,

Ratzinger’s coat of arms was rife with occult meaning and Bergolio was off the charts with his masonic artwork.

What's really creepy is his motto: in illo uno unum

Google AI, which knows more Latin than the entire conclave, translates it as: In the One, one; or In the One, we are one.

Very creepy. Points to the one world religion of antichrist. It's all contained in his balcony speech: 

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/08/nx-s1-5392318/transcript-pope-leo-xiv-speech

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 08, 2025, 07:15:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vlhadgv.png)


His (hell) eyes, nose and mouth signal racial crypto-jew, likely from his momma's side as her ancestry, by narrative, is so muddled.
If this guy turns out to be the false prophet it would certainly be par for course that he's a crypto heeb. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Bonaventure on May 08, 2025, 07:28:13 PM
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

Report: Critics of Pope favorite Prevost received $150K to remain silent

Dateline: May 4, 2025

https://globebanner.com/stories/671154673-report-critics-of-pope-favorite-prevost-received-150k-to-remain-silent
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: KirklandWater on May 08, 2025, 07:45:18 PM
What's really creepy is his motto: in illo uno unum
It's a quote from St. Augustine's Enarrationes in Psalmum 127. 
"Nos multi in illo uno unum"
"
"Though we are many, in the one [Christ], we are one."
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Minnesota on May 08, 2025, 08:04:04 PM
My guess is that Leo XIV is who Francis personally wanted to succeed him when his time is up. Ideologically very similar, similar backgrounds and ministry.

His major cardinal sin is being a White Sox fan.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 08, 2025, 08:04:40 PM
I'm not a fan of Westen but here is a preliminary report on Prevost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLKDchHJRq4&t=70s
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 08:05:25 PM
So what are benevacantists going to be doing? I can see Ann Barnhardt has the vacant see banner still on her blog. Will they finally see that Bergoglio was not the root of the problem?

I'm wondering myself.  So, on X Patrick Coffin announced we have a pope.  So I asked him, since he thinks Bergs was no pope, how that is the case if Jorge appointed 108 of the Cardinals that "elected" this guy.  I got no response.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 08:09:08 PM
I'm not a fan of Westen but here is a preliminary report on Prevost.

I used to like the guy, thinking he was sincere but wrong.

Well, after teh first two rounds of voting, he announced (as if it were fact) that the early vote had been split between Parolin and Erdo.  Then LAST NIGHT, he said, again announcing it as if it were just regular news, that Prevost had emerged as the front-runner.

HOW DID HE KNOW THIS?  Absolutely nobody was expecting this guy to win, yet Westen correctly called that Prevost had emerged.

Either he had a mole within the Conclave or else he had the script ahead of time ... such as the BBC with Building 7.

People have said that he's associated with Opus Judei.  Do we have any concrete details about that?  This requires some investigation.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 08, 2025, 08:12:16 PM
Prevost is fervently pro-open borders; he locked down churches during covid-19, he insisted on "communion" in the hand, and he wanted "confessions" done over the phone which is anti-Catholic and invalid.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 08:24:37 PM
It's a quote from St. Augustine's Enarrationes in Psalmum 127.
"Nos multi in illo uno unum"
"
"Though we are many, in the one [Christ], we are one."


Do you think he means what St. Augustine meant? 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 08, 2025, 08:24:54 PM
Prevost is fervently pro-open borders; he locked down churches during covid-19, he insisted on "communion" in the hand, and he wanted "confessions" done over the phone which is anti-Catholic and invalid.

Yeah ... makes me wonder if he was installed just in time for the next Plandemic, so that he can order all the churches closed.

I've long believed that the next lockdown is going to be worse, and many Catholic will be going with out the Sacraments as a result.

I've long suggested that some of the Trad bishops set up an "underground" network of secretly-ordained priests who might be able to get the Sacraments to people in need under such conditions, but I don't think any of them are amenable.  I know Bishop Slupski anticipated something like that ... since he wasn't complacent with normalcy bias like most of us are.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: SimpleMan on May 08, 2025, 08:44:31 PM
Prevost is fervently pro-open borders; he locked down churches during covid-19, he insisted on "communion" in the hand, and he wanted "confessions" done over the phone which is anti-Catholic and invalid.
Jone in Moral Theology said that there is a slight possibility that a confession over the telephone might be valid:


(https://i.imgur.com/G6Y7mXi.png)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 08, 2025, 08:45:36 PM
Interview of Prevost's brother here about his thoughts on his brother getting "elected" "pope". His brother seems effeminate and he has no children. An effeminate boomer with no children and, apparently, never married. An effeminate male with no family of his own and being from the boomer generation must set off the gαydar. Are the sodomites so close to the "papacy" as the "pope's" own brother?

Start at 6:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnZ8zz9_og
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: OABrownson1876 on May 08, 2025, 09:10:25 PM
And my question is, during Covid how much money did he and the other American bishops accept from the government in hush-up money?  

Concerning the three girls in Peru who made allegations against the two priests, the one girl said, "The priest would lie down with me and wrap his arms and legs around me."  How is it that these priests are put in the situation to lie down with nine-year-old-girls? I am sorry, but I need more information here.  How do I know that the three families in Peru did not fabricate the story to get a few dollars?  Most of these bishops will pay hush-up money so as not to go through a several-year trial because they do not want the publicity.  I trust the Peruvian press about as much as I trust the American press. 
 



   
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: OABrownson1876 on May 08, 2025, 09:31:10 PM
Interview of Prevost's brother here about his thoughts on his brother getting "elected" "pope". His brother seems effeminate and he has no children. An effeminate boomer with no children and, apparently, never married. An effeminate male with no family of his own and being from the boomer generation must set off the gαydar. Are the sodomites so close to the "papacy" as the "pope's" own brother?

Start at 6:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnZ8zz9_og
I watched the interview, and he is certainly not the most manly.  But he seems to live in a regular residential neighborhood.  Surely if he is a flamer it would leak out in the neighborhood and the press. Unless the guy is sneaking out to gαy bars in the middle of the night or something.  Perhaps he thought all the Catholic girls in Chicago in the 60's were too much on the hippie side and he chose to stay single and teach?    
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Predestination2 on May 08, 2025, 10:10:04 PM
Interview of Prevost's brother here about his thoughts on his brother getting "elected" "pope". His brother seems effeminate and he has no children. An effeminate boomer with no children and, apparently, never married. An effeminate male with no family of his own and being from the boomer generation must set off the gαydar. Are the sodomites so close to the "papacy" as the "pope's" own brother?

Start at 6:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnZ8zz9_og
 Never forget that bergoglio himself was a sodomite. See how he looked at those male performers. 



one good thing is that this debunks the idea that Pius xi and Pius xii were the first two heads of the beast 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 08, 2025, 10:21:07 PM
Skip to the 1 hour time stamp to avoid the boring conversation. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87a3JkqDp00&t=1s
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Jr1991 on May 08, 2025, 10:47:26 PM
Strickland seems really confused.  Why is he on with a Mormon like Beck while trashing Catholics like E Michael Jones. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: drphil on May 08, 2025, 11:06:08 PM
So what's doin' in the novus ordo today?

From an online Liturgy of the Hours:
https://www.ibreviary.com/m2/breviario.php

Thursday, 8 May 2025

Thursday of the Third Week of Easter

Tipo: Feriale - Tempo: Pasqua


_____________________________________________

What's doin' in the Roman Catholic Church today?

Thursday, 8 May 2025
https://www.divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl

In Apparitione S. Michaëlis Archangeli ~ Duplex majus

Commemoratio: De II die infra Octavam S. Joseph

________________________________________________


So the filthy novus ordo sect is calling today of all days a "feria."

________________________________________________

God decreed the day that jorge became a stinking corpse; and He decreed what day the new imposter would be presented to an abjectly stupid world.

God's dates have meaning.

Looka here, at some of the other Feasts that the Church celebrated since Easter Monday, the date of bergoglio's judgment:

Remember that our God arranged all of this. God chose all of these dates:

In no particular order:

- St. Athanasius: defender of orthodoxy, even unto protracted extremis;

- St. Anselm: defender of the Church against an overreaching king;

- St. George: dragon slayer;

- St. Fidelis: his name is symbolic and he was stabbed to death by protestant heretics;

- The Greater Litanies;

- St. Peter of Verona: αssαssιnαtҽd by Manichaean scuм;

- St. Catherine of Sienna: who discerned the true Pope and got him to return to His Apostolic See;

- Sts. Philip and James: mighty Apostles, one of whom was the kinsman of Jesus, and the Bishop of Jerusalem;

- The Finding of the Holy Cross by St. Helena: mother of he who liberated the Church after 300+ years of dire persecution;

- St. Monica: famous for her persevering prayer in an impossible cause.

- St. Joseph, Patron of the Universal Church, Spouse of the Ever Blessed Virgin and Mother of God;

- In Apparitione S. Michaëlis Archangeli: Hic est Míchaël Archángelus, princeps milítiæ Angelórum, cujus honor præstat benefícia populórum, et orátio perdúcit ad regna cælórum. Archángelus Míchaël præpósitus paradísi, quem honoríficant Angelórum cives.

From the First Nocturn: Dan. 7:11: I beheld because of the voice of the great words which that horn spoke: and I saw that the beast was slain, and the body thereof was destroyed, and given to the fire to be burnt.

_____________________________________________________

The fake conclave began on the Feast of the Patron of the Universal Church and the putative Father of DNJC. It ended on the Feast of St. Michael, Angel of the Apocalypse, Victor over the devil and his legions, Shepherd of the souls of the Elect. This is not an accident.

I don't know who this Prevost is. Soon we will know. In fact, he most likely doesn't matter. What we do know, what we already know, what actually matters, is that our God is not far from us. Perhaps the sword of destruction hanging over the ѕуηαgσgυє's head is beginning to materialize in the mirror of the Church's public worship. Please God! 
I have a 1962 liturgical calendar, for this year, I believe made by a SSPX-adjacent group. It also has today as "Feria."
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 08, 2025, 11:16:29 PM
Yeah ... makes me wonder if he was installed just in time for the next Plandemic, so that he can order all the churches closed.

I've long believed that the next lockdown is going to be worse, and many Catholic will be going with out the Sacraments as a result.

I've long suggested that some of the Trad bishops set up an "underground" network of secretly-ordained priests who might be able to get the Sacraments to people in need under such conditions, but I don't think any of them are amenable.  I know Bishop Slupski anticipated something like that ... since he wasn't complacent with normalcy bias like most of us are.

Well, just like a person who lived through the Great Depression (1930's) is incapable of wasting food, etc., Bp. Slupski was well aware of the epic battle going on between good and evil. He knew evil first-hand, growing up in Communist Poland. He wasn't blissfully ignorant of evil the way so many modern Americans are.

That's what makes (most) Trads special: we are willing to believe in evil. It's because we truly believe in God. Most people nowadays don't believe in either. Unless you believe in God (infinite goodness) it's hard to conceive of the kind of evil that exists in the world today -- springing of course from the devil, and working through his agents.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Seraphina on May 08, 2025, 11:22:51 PM
A pope is known by his nose? Please analyze mine! 

(https://i.imgur.com/BsTMb8t.jpeg)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 03:24:10 AM
It's a quote from St. Augustine's Enarrationes in Psalmum 127.
"Nos multi in illo uno unum"
"
"Though we are many, in the one [Christ], we are one."

People take things out of context or misinterpret all the time. There are many aspects of Christianity is that, on the face of it reeks of globalism, Catholic by it's very name means " universal", which again, on the face of it, can mean whatever you want it to mean.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 03:26:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vlhadgv.png)


His (hell) eyes, nose and mouth signal racial crypto-jew, likely from his momma's side as her ancestry, by narrative, is so muddled.
I do see the African in the woodpile, not so much the jew.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 03:33:09 AM
I used to like the guy, thinking he was sincere but wrong.

Well, after teh first two rounds of voting, he announced (as if it were fact) that the early vote had been split between Parolin and Erdo.  Then LAST NIGHT, he said, again announcing it as if it were just regular news, that Prevost had emerged as the front-runner.

HOW DID HE KNOW THIS?  Absolutely nobody was expecting this guy to win, yet Westen correctly called that Prevost had emerged.

Either he had a mole within the Conclave or else he had the script ahead of time ... such as the BBC with Building 7.

People have said that he's associated with Opus Judei.  Do we have any concrete details about that?  This requires some investigation.
Westen has been a vatican journalist for decades, of course he had inside information, it's a tool of his craft, all good journalists get the inside dope early, if you actually work at your trade. 

Man, you are really reaching sometimes.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 09, 2025, 05:50:05 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-s_DOxYulp0&list=RDNS-s_DOxYulp0&index=1
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 09, 2025, 05:58:57 AM
Bad guys die when and how God wants them to ...
Russian proverb: You're not going to drown when you're destined to hang. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 09, 2025, 06:14:32 AM
It's a quote from St. Augustine's Enarrationes in Psalmum 127.
"Nos multi in illo uno unum"
"
"Though we are many, in the one [Christ], we are one."


Short memory. The demoniac, wojtyla, co-opted not the mere words of a man, but the words of God Himself. Remember "ut unum sint?"

The holy words were hijacked in order to signify universal salvation, salvation in other religions, and the notion that every man is Christ. 

What's interesting to me is the possible bifurcation of the demolition process, which we might discern by looking at these two unholy mottos. 

Thus far we've seen ecuмenism and religious indifferentism wearing away the Church's mission to the world as the only means of salvation for all men. Ut unum sint was the motto for this first phase. 

The new motto, in illo uno unum, may be intended to preside over phase 2 - the war on the metaphysical constitution of the Church. The code word "synodal," now on every apostate tongue, is a possible signal that they are now in phase 2.  

All of this is in preparation for the false messias of the ѕуηαgσgυє.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 09, 2025, 06:21:30 AM
I have a 1962 liturgical calendar, for this year, I believe made by a SSPX-adjacent group. It also has today as "Feria."

I received quite an education when I switched from the "reformed" Breviary prayed by the SSPX to the Catholic promulgation of St. Pius X, Divino Afflatu.

Anyone who brashly claims that the 1962 package is Catholic and traditional, is either a liar, or has not made the requisite comparative study. 

Every time I pray the Office on a Feast Day that they are ignoring in 1962-Land, I ask myself, "What Liturgy are they celebrating today in Heaven?" Was yesterday a Feria in Heaven? Was St. Michael dethroned, denigrated, and forgotten in Heaven? Heaven forbid!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 09, 2025, 06:23:09 AM
Have you never heard of the "Roman nose"? Apparently having a bump on the slope of your nose, or a crooked nose, is NOT an exclusively Jєωιѕн trait.
That's not the same as the hooked claw nose which is exclusively of the jew (that's not to say all jews have the hooked claw nose). My great aunt was full Sicilian and she had that classic bump Roman nose. Prevost has the hooked claw nose. He, also, has a reptile mouth which is a jew trait. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 09, 2025, 06:35:02 AM

On NOW, poster Eduardo Montañero made an excellent observation:


Quote
The comments on the Jesuit America Magazine article regarding Bob Prevost are a good indication of what to expect. Several commenters praised Prevost for sitting at the table with James Martin every day during the last synod. Most have great hope that he will be Bergoglio 2.0, paying particular attention to LGBTetc "inclusion" and the formation of female "priests." Apparently, Prevost also went into great detail discussing his maternal pedigree, which includes black Haitian and Louisiana Creole of color roots. This pleases America readers very much as they associate racial diversity with their social justice agenda.

What red blooded, Catholic man could occupy the same table with that reeking pervert over the course of an entire multi-day event? No greater example of guilt by association than this. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 06:41:49 AM
Mindless (and faithless) "Trads" are all going gaga over the fact that he wore traditional vestments and there was some Latin used at his "Mass" ... in addition to the name Leo.  I really didn't think most people would be this shallow and stupid.  Of course they're filtering out the female lectors and his pushing Synodal Church by some kind of bizarre cognitive dissonance.

I thought I was the only one who realized this guy looks like a sodomite ... until Brother Nathanael just posted along those lines.  Look at his High School picture.  Since his family is around, someone should ask if he ever dated a girl.  Those types like a bit of smell and bell.

We also have both Sarah and Burke hailing his election, proving once and for all that they were never going to be part of the solution, as these were the best hopes of Trad, Inc. ... the Great White Hope and Great Black Hope.  When the best of the best can do nothing but issue few mealy-mouthed "uncertainties" in the face of clear, obvious, abject heresy, that tells us what we need to know.

I thought it would take a Sarah to fool the Trads, but I was giving them too much credit.  All it evidently takes is his talking about Synodal Church in Latin and wearing traditional vestments while sitting there listening to female lectors.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 06:43:17 AM
On NOW, poster Eduardo Montañero made an excellent observation:


What red blooded, Catholic man could occupy the same table with that reeking pervert over the course of an entire multi-day event? No greater example of guilt by association than this.

I've been saying he looks like a sodomite from the start.  Look at his High School picture and the one where he's pawing JP2.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: ByzCat3000 on May 09, 2025, 06:48:22 AM
Mindless (and faithless) "Trads" are all going gaga over the fact that he wore traditional vestments and there was some Latin used at his "Mass" ... in addition to the name Leo.  I really didn't think most people would be this shallow and stupid.  Of course they're filtering out the female lectors and his pushing Synodal Church by some kind of bizarre cognitive dissonance.

I thought I was the only one who realized this guy looks like a sodomite ... until Brother Nathanael just posted along those lines.  Look at his High School picture.  Since his family is around, someone should ask if he ever dated a girl.  Those types like a bit of smell and bell.

We also have both Sarah and Burke hailing his election, proving once and for all that they were never going to be part of the solution, as these were the best hopes of Trad, Inc. ... the Great White Hope and Great Black Hope.  When the best of the best can do nothing but issue few mealy-mouthed "uncertainties" in the face of clear, obvious, abject heresy, that tells us what we need to know.

I thought it would take a Sarah to fool the Trads, but I was giving them too much credit.  All it evidently takes is his talking about Synodal Church in Latin and wearing traditional vestments while sitting there listening to female lectors.
I knew as soon as I saw he was towing the Francis line on ordo amoris.  Was arguing with a couple (novus ordo, but anti open borders) Catholic friends about this and eventually realized I wasn’t gonna get anywhere. 
and yeah I get I’m Orthodox so I’m commenting from the outside looking in here but I do care because of the political impact and the fact that he has influence on over a billion people including millions of Americans 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: AnthonyPadua on May 09, 2025, 07:16:26 AM
. He, also, has a reptile mouth which is a jew trait.
A lot of people have this due to teeth extractions and braces pushing the upper and lower jaws backwards.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 09, 2025, 07:20:44 AM
Although I consider myself a sede I admit that I was momentarily caught up in the conclave, the beauty of the spectacle, the anticipation of looking at that balcony, hoping against all odds some miracle might occur...
and then it took all of about 15 minutes of research once the name was announced to find the following about the creep:
1. Protected pedophiles check
2. Advocated for infinity immigration to the West with all the murders, rapes, assorted crimes and
the misery and taxes that it brings..check
3. enforced communion in the hand check
4. like a true coward and Judas to the faith he remained silent while Bergoglio spread heresy after heresy check
5. Encouraged everyone take the poisonous aborted fetal tissue jab without any regard for their health or soul check
6. in behalf of Jorge he hand selected fellow apostates to be bishops check

Points 1 and 5 alone makes him a criminal worthy of a life sentence in prison but 2, 3, 4, 6 classify him as a demon in human form. 

In the coming months I'm sure this list will be greatly expanded
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: 2Vermont on May 09, 2025, 07:26:05 AM
Jone in Moral Theology said that there is a slight possibility that a confession over the telephone might be valid:


(https://i.imgur.com/G6Y7mXi.png)
Interesting. If I'm reading/understanding that correctly, it sounds like it is conditional and in cases of necessity.  I take that to mean that the penitent would still need to follow up with in-person confession.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: cassini on May 09, 2025, 07:36:56 AM
As mentioned, it's naturally impossible that they would get a "Pope" on the second day every single time since Montini ... unless they had already pre-selected who they were going to roll out.

The second post above is spot on, and demonstrates the whole conclave was a farce
in keeping with everything since Vatican II. Nothing will change with post-Vatican II popes.
Just keep the faith, save your soul and those of your loved ones.
How God gets rid of them we will have to wait to see.


Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Incredulous on May 09, 2025, 08:20:07 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vlhadgv.png)


His (hell) eyes, nose and mouth signal racial crypto-jew, likely from his momma's side as her ancestry, by narrative, is so muddled.
There’s a recent precedent with JPII and his Jєωιѕн mother, surname “Katz”.

He spent his entire pontificate judaizing the Church.

Provost’s nose looks in part to be a very commercial, practical nose which is typical for the jew.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 08:57:07 AM
So, apart from the physiognomy controversy, am I the only one that thinks his physical appearance suggests a certain orientation?  I thought I was until Brother Nathanael posted something imply that as well.


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVBrhOFmrp9_nwYYgRQgqW5Fo1Tk_IZpR05w&s)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cm7pqlIE_nfgMqt6IKJM9Q--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTE1MzU-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/9b93c36955771023270e5811e10f6ff5)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy0_-S_DHmMHz-Tfay3NdgLy3HziDExA8GQQ&s)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Michelle on May 09, 2025, 09:17:51 AM
So, apart from the physiognomy controversy, am I the only one that thinks his physical appearance suggests a certain orientation?  I thought I was until Brother Nathanael posted something imply that as well.


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVBrhOFmrp9_nwYYgRQgqW5Fo1Tk_IZpR05w&s)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cm7pqlIE_nfgMqt6IKJM9Q--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTE1MzU-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/9b93c36955771023270e5811e10f6ff5)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy0_-S_DHmMHz-Tfay3NdgLy3HziDExA8GQQ&s)
What kind of man desires to become a novus ordo presider?  Or enter into the purple palace seminaries?  What kind of fruit can the Novus Ordo establishment produce?  It should be obvious to anyone with eyes to see that the Vatican ll religion is not the Catholic religion and the men who enter those seminaries are not intending to become Catholic priests.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 09, 2025, 09:28:23 AM
So, apart from the physiognomy controversy, am I the only one that thinks his physical appearance suggests a certain orientation?  I thought I was until Brother Nathanael posted something imply that as well.


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVBrhOFmrp9_nwYYgRQgqW5Fo1Tk_IZpR05w&s)

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cm7pqlIE_nfgMqt6IKJM9Q--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTE1MzU-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_telegraph_258/9b93c36955771023270e5811e10f6ff5)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy0_-S_DHmMHz-Tfay3NdgLy3HziDExA8GQQ&s)
Just about every bishop, cardinal and a good majority of the novus ordo priests I've seen all seem to have a deficit of testosterone. One would never characterize them as being masculine by any stretch of the imagination. I believe the apostles, martyrs, and hierarchy up to the last hundred years had far more in common in terms of appearance with Sean Connery than these men, whom would look right at home attending a Barbara Streisand concert or working as a florist in San Francisco. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 09:34:09 AM
What kind of man desires to become a novus ordo presider?  Or enter into the purple palace seminaries?  What kind of fruit can the Novus Ordo establishment produce?  It should be obvious to anyone with eyes to see that the Vatican ll religion is not the Catholic religion and the men who enter those seminaries are not intending to become Catholic priests.

AND, once you get in, ESPECIALLY during the era he was there, it was 100% "Good bye, good men" in the NO "seminaries", where they were absolutely infested with sodomy, and heresy, and if you were even slightly convervative, or straight ... you got the boot.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 09:35:21 AM
So perhaps it doesn't strike other people the same way, but I know a sodomite who has facial expressions almost identical to Prevost, and that one expression where he's with Wojtyla ... there's no mistaking that.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 09, 2025, 10:24:17 AM
The scientific establishment has derided the study of physiognomy as it relates to personality type, character and sɛҳuąƖ orientation as a pseudo science. These are the same people who haven't provided any scientific data to 
support their claim that homos and trannies were born that way.
Throughout my life I have found that the conclusions I've drawn about someone based on physiognomy alone
have been 100% spot on. It is simply pattern recognition and it is almost immediate. 
Much of Jєωιѕн propaganda attempts to short circuit this very natural reaction we have been equipped with for self preservation.
That is why (((they))) have to spend billions to convince White women that black men are desirable. 
It's not just the lisp, mannerisms, and manner of dress that give homos away. 
I've found that many sodomites have somewhat bulging eyes, a condition known as exophthalmos.
It's what gives them that unmistakable, leering predatory look. 
With lesbians they tend to have very thin lips and stronger jaw law lines. 
It's a composite of many factors but very few homos look like Rock Hudson.
For a brief period I worked in Chicago's Lakeview area, which is known locally as "Boystown" as it's the hub of
the sodomite community.  
What struck me most about all the homos walking up and down the street was the dysgenic quality most of them had. 
Quite the opposite of the stylish, healthy, handsome apollos Hollywood portrays them as. 
 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Minnesota on May 09, 2025, 10:52:00 AM
What kind of man desires to become a novus ordo presider?  Or enter into the purple palace seminaries?  What kind of fruit can the Novus Ordo establishment produce?  It should be obvious to anyone with eyes to see that the Vatican ll religion is not the Catholic religion and the men who enter those seminaries are not intending to become Catholic priests.
There are some rather orthodox priests in the NO these days. The younger generation ordained in the last decade is a big example.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Incredulous on May 09, 2025, 10:57:23 AM
Has anyone mentioned Chicago’s leading ecclesiastical reputation for liberalism, apostasy and satanism?

This was Cardinal Bernadin’s stomping grounds.

Bernadin’s legacy (https://www.bitchute.com/video/J1d8fejl6cU)

How much did this whacked Diocese affect pope Leo XIV ?

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 09, 2025, 10:59:13 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vlhadgv.png)


His (hell) eyes, nose and mouth signal racial crypto-jew, likely from his momma's side as her ancestry, by narrative, is so muddled.

You're crazy. Besides his "Roman nose", I see no Jєωιѕн features on his face.
I know all the Jєωιѕн features. I'm 100% aware on the JQ.
Mark79 will vouch for me that I'm a completely awake on the JQ.
But I don't see Jews under every bush. I'm not paranoid.


Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Mr G on May 09, 2025, 12:19:10 PM

Pope Leo XIV's words from the balcony: Full transcript - LifeSite (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-leo-xivs-words-from-the-balcony-full-transcript/?utm_source=featured-news&utm_campaign=catholic)
"To all of you, brothers and sisters from Rome, from Italy, from all over the world, we want to be a synodal Church, a Church that walks, a Church that always seeks peace, that always seeks charity, that always seeks to be close especially to those who suffer."
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 12:24:37 PM
You're crazy. Besides his "Roman nose", I see no Jєωιѕн features on his face.
I know all the Jєωιѕн features. I'm 100% aware on the JQ.
Mark79 will vouch for me that I'm a completely awake on the JQ.
But I don't see Jews under every bush. I'm not paranoid.

Well, since you posted that physiognomy chart, I do say he bares a striking resemblance to the "Demon" category.  Look closely.  That would be rather ironic.

Not saying that proves or disproves anything though.  :laugh1:
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Minnesota on May 09, 2025, 12:28:09 PM
It may not be rigged, but it was heavily favored towards Leo XIV. I am becoming increasingly convinced that he is who Francis hand-picked and groomed as his successor. 

Here's how you know: Why else was he made a Cardinal only two and a half years ago? Why did he go from being consecrated as a bishop to Pope in 10 years? The 10th anniversary of his consecration as Bishop of Chiclayo, Peru, was just this past December. 

They're very similar in practice: Both spent much time in impoverished parts of South America, both are theologically fairly liberal, both are big fans of "synodality," and both were heavy critics of Trump, Vance, and GOP immigration policy.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 09, 2025, 12:52:23 PM
It may not be rigged, but it was heavily favored towards Leo XIV. I am becoming increasingly convinced that he is who Francis hand-picked and groomed as his successor.

Here's how you know: Why else was he made a Cardinal only two and a half years ago? Why did he go from being consecrated as a bishop to Pope in 10 years? The 10th anniversary of his consecration as Bishop of Chiclayo, Peru, was just this past December.

They're very similar in practice: Both spent much time in impoverished parts of South America, both are theologically fairly liberal, both are big fans of "synodality," and both were heavy critics of Trump, Vance, and GOP immigration policy.
I think the primary reason Francis and Leo XIV oppose Trump on immigration is because that's been the biggest moneymaker for the conciliar church as they have received billions in contracts through Catholic Charities to resettle the invaders. 
The novus ordo has been selling off hospitals, schools, nursing homes, orphanages, and churches left and right, many times at fire sale prices, because the churches are empty and they need money to pay settlements for all the child molesters they protected. Just think of the legal fees they have had to pay before the settlements!
Cupich has closed over 88 churches since 2020 alone!

of course there's sheer malevolence at work as well in approving mass immigration into White nations. 
 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WorldsAway on May 09, 2025, 01:19:24 PM
Leo XIV's first homily:


Quote
I will begin with a word in English, and the rest is in Italian. But I want to repeat the words from the Responsorial Psalm: “I will sing a new song to the Lord, because he has done marvels.” 

And indeed, not just with me but with all of us. My brother Cardinals, as we celebrate this morning, I invite you to recognize the marvels that the Lord has done, the blessings that the Lord continues to pour out on all of us through the Ministry of Peter. 


You have called me to carry that cross, and to be blessed with that mission, and I know I can rely on each and every one of you to walk with me, as we continue as a Church, as a community of friends of Jesus, as believers to announce the Good News, to announce the Gospel.

"You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Mt 16:16). In these words, Peter, asked by the Master, together with the other disciples, about his faith in him, expressed the patrimony that the Church, through the apostolic succession, has preserved, deepened and handed on for two thousand years.

Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God: the one Savior, who alone reveals the face of the Father.
In him, God, in order to make himself close and accessible to men and women, revealed himself to us in the trusting eyes of a child, in the lively mind of a young person and in the mature features of a man (cf. Gaudium et Spes, 22), finally appearing to his disciples after the resurrection with his glorious body. He thus showed us a model of human holiness that we can all imitate, together with the promise of an eternal destiny that transcends all our limits and abilities.

Peter, in his response, understands both of these things: the gift of God and the path to follow in order to allow himself to be changed by that gift. They are two inseparable aspects of salvation entrusted to the Church to be proclaimed for the good of the human race. Indeed, they are entrusted to us, who were chosen by him before we were formed in our mothers' wombs (cf. Jer 1:5), reborn in the waters of Baptism and, surpassing our limitations and with no merit of our own, brought here and sent forth from here, so that the Gospel might be proclaimed to every creature (cf. Mk 16:15).

In a particular way, God has called me by your election to succeed the Prince of the Apostles, and has entrusted this treasure to me so that, with his help, I may be its faithful administrator (cf. 1 Cor 4:2) for the sake of the entire mystical Body of the Church. He has done so in order that she may be ever more fully a city set on a hill (cf. Rev 21:10), an ark of salvation sailing through the waters of history and a beacon that illumines the dark nights of this world. And this, not so much through the magnificence of her structures or the grandeur of her buildings – like the monuments among which we find ourselves – but rather through the holiness of her members. For we are the people whom God has chosen as his own, so that we may declare the wonderful deeds of him who called us out of darkness into his marvelous light (cf. 1 Pet 2:9).

Peter, however, makes his profession of faith in reply to a specific question: "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" (Mt 16:13). The question is not insignificant. It concerns an essential aspect of our ministry, namely, the world in which we live, with its limitations and its potential, its questions and its convictions.

"Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" If we reflect on the scene we are considering, we might find two possible answers, which characterize two different attitudes. First, there is the world's response. Matthew tells us that this conversation between Jesus and his disciples takes place in the beautiful town of Caesarea Philippi, filled with luxurious palaces, set in a magnificent natural landscape at the foot of Mount Hermon, but also a place of cruel power plays and the scene of betrayals and infidelity. This setting speaks to us of a world that considers Jesus a completely insignificant person, at best someone with an unusual and striking way of speaking and acting. And so, once his presence becomes irksome because of his demands for honesty and his stern moral requirements, this "world" will not hesitate to reject and eliminate him.

Then there is the other possible response to Jesus' question: that of ordinary people. For them, the Nazarene is not a charlatan, but an upright man, one who has courage, who speaks well and says the right things, like other great prophets in the history of Israel. That is why they follow him, at least for as long as they can do so without too much risk or inconvenience. Yet to them he is only a man, and therefore, in times of danger, during his passion, they too abandon him and depart disappointed.
What is striking about these two attitudes is their relevance today. They embody notions that we could easily find on the lips of many men and women in our own time, even if, while essentially identical, they are expressed in different language.
Even today, there are many settings in which the Christian faith is considered absurd, meant for the weak and unintelligent. Settings where other securities are preferred, like technology, money, success, power, or pleasure.

These are contexts where it is not easy to preach the Gospel and bear witness to its truth, where believers are mocked, opposed, despised or at best tolerated and pitied. Yet, precisely for this reason, they are the places where our missionary outreach is desperately needed. A lack of faith is often tragically accompanied by the loss of meaning in life, the neglect of mercy, appalling violations of human dignity, the crisis of the family and so many other wounds that afflict our society.

Today, too, there are many settings in which Jesus, although appreciated as a man, is reduced to a kind of charismatic leader or superman. This is true not only among non-believers but also among many baptized Christians, who thus end up living, at this level, in a state of practical atheism.

This is the world that has been entrusted to us, a world in which, as Pope Francis taught us so many times, we are called to bear witness to our joyful faith in Jesus the Savior. Therefore, it is essential that we too repeat, with Peter: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Mt 16:16).

It is essential to do this, first of all, in our personal relationship with the Lord, in our commitment to a daily journey of conversion. Then, to do so as a Church, experiencing together our fidelity to the Lord and bringing the Good News to all (cf. Lumen Gentium, 1).
I say this first of all to myself, as the Successor of Peter, as I begin my mission as Bishop of Rome and, according to the well-known expression of Saint Ignatius of Antioch, am called to preside in charity over the universal Church (cf. Letter to the Romans, Prologue). Saint Ignatius, who was led in chains to this city, the place of his impending sacrifice, wrote to the Christians there: "Then I will truly be a disciple of Jesus Christ, when the world no longer sees my body" (Letter to the Romans, IV, 1). Ignatius was speaking about being devoured by wild beasts in the arena – and so it happened – but his words apply more generally to an indispensable commitment for all those in the Church who exercise a ministry of authority. It is to move aside so that Christ may remain, to make oneself small so that he may be known and glorified (cf. Jn 3:30), to spend oneself to the utmost so that all may have the opportunity to know and love him.

May God grant me this grace, today and always, through the loving intercession of Mary, Mother of the Church.

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: SimpleMan on May 09, 2025, 01:30:48 PM
Leo XIV's first homily:
 Maybe I'm just thick, but what is wrong with anything that he said here? 

(Assuming anyone makes that assertion.)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: SimpleMan on May 09, 2025, 01:34:18 PM
It may not be rigged, but it was heavily favored towards Leo XIV. I am becoming increasingly convinced that he is who Francis hand-picked and groomed as his successor.

Here's how you know: Why else was he made a Cardinal only two and a half years ago? Why did he go from being consecrated as a bishop to Pope in 10 years? The 10th anniversary of his consecration as Bishop of Chiclayo, Peru, was just this past December.

They're very similar in practice: Both spent much time in impoverished parts of South America, both are theologically fairly liberal, both are big fans of "synodality," and both were heavy critics of Trump, Vance, and GOP immigration policy.

I tend to think that a lot of them thought going in "we'll pull for our guy [Parolin/Tagle/Sarah/Erdo/whomever], but if there's not enough momentum to swing things our way after a couple of ballots, then we can probably pretty much agree on Prevost, and get this thing over with, rather than grinding down to a deadlock".

Seen that way, it was probably a foregone conclusion among the cardinals.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Persto on May 09, 2025, 01:35:57 PM
The second post above is spot on, and demonstrates the whole conclave was a farce
in keeping with everything since Vatican II. Nothing will change with post-Vatican II popes.
Just keep the faith, save your soul and those of your loved ones.
How God gets rid of them we will have to wait to see.

Fr. Zepeda says this  ^^^  also.
This video talks about the cover-up and culpability of Prevost in sɛҳuąƖ scandals, and how Bergoglio knowingly promoted him.  Also, other facts about Prevost, that are available now, but may disappear. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcdvl0WQZnI
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 01:56:53 PM
I tend to think that a lot of them thought going in "we'll pull for our guy [Parolin/Tagle/Sarah/Erdo/whomever], but if there's not enough momentum to swing things our way after a couple of ballots, then we can probably pretty much agree on Prevost, and get this thing over with, rather than grinding down to a deadlock".

Seen that way, it was probably a foregone conclusion among the cardinals.

Bergoglio installed 108 of them, so they could have installed anyone they wanted to.  I don't believe for a second that the outcome had not been predetermined, especially when ever single conclave after Roncalli took 2 days.  Not possible if they hadn't been predetermined.  2 days is indicative because you can't exactly roll out the selected winner immediately because everyone would know that it had been rigged and there had been collusion.  But you don't feel like waiting longer than you have to just to dispel that inevitable reaction to a very short conclave.  Thus 2 days.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Pax Vobis on May 09, 2025, 02:18:00 PM
Maybe I'm just thick, but what is wrong with anything that he said here? 

(Assuming anyone makes that assertion.)
I don't see anything wrong with what he said.  But...i'm not really sure WHAT he said.  :laugh1:  It was a generic, spiritually-sounding, word-salad.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 02:20:04 PM
I don't see anything wrong with what he said.  But...i'm not really sure WHAT he said.  :laugh1:  It was a generic, spiritually-sounding, word-salad.

Some stuff he had written beforehand sounds like total word salad ... but one red light to me was referring to "Mary, Mother of the Church", refusing her the title Mother of God.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Cera on May 09, 2025, 02:36:34 PM
Fr. Zepeda says this  ^^^  also.
This video talks about the cover-up and culpability of Prevost in sɛҳuąƖ scandals, and how Bergoglio knowingly promoted him.  Also, other facts about Prevost, that are available now, but may disappear. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcdvl0WQZnI
Thanks Persto. Great video!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WorldsAway on May 09, 2025, 02:37:43 PM
Maybe I'm just thick, but what is wrong with anything that he said here? 

(Assuming anyone makes that assertion.)
Aside from him saying the "mystical Body of the Church" (could be mistranslated, or him misspeaking. I've only ever read the "Mystical Body of Christ", which is the Church) it seems pretty orthodox to me. But that is the problem, it's not something you would expect from a supposed protege of Francis. He affirms papal primacy, refers to the Church as an "ark of salvation", the members of the Church as "the people whom God has chosen as His own". This isn't like his speech yesterday at all. We'll have to wait and see what else he says/does, but if he continues on like this I wouldn't be surprised if "conservative" Catholics, Indulters, SSPX take this as some sort of Pius IX conversion and fall in line
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Stubborn on May 09, 2025, 02:41:01 PM
Maybe I'm just thick, but what is wrong with anything that he said here? 

(Assuming anyone makes that assertion.)
He blew it at his first blessing, so this was his perfect opportunity to say, or at the very least, hint something Catholic, but he didn't even say the word "Catholic." Typical NO homily. Nothing but blah blah blah Jesus, blah blah blah Christ blah blah blah NO useless nothing.

What gets me is that this man is another one who is on the road to facing Our Lord an idiot at best, or a Judas and worse. It boggles my mind when I think of it. 
 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 03:45:09 PM
Fr. Zepeda says this  ^^^  also.

Seems like a solid priest, though he contradicts the CMRI position about salvation outside the Church.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 04:57:09 PM
Interview of Prevost's brother here about his thoughts on his brother getting "elected" "pope". His brother seems effeminate and he has no children. An effeminate boomer with no children and, apparently, never married. An effeminate male with no family of his own and being from the boomer generation must set off the gαydar. Are the sodomites so close to the "papacy" as the "pope's" own brother?

Start at 6:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnZ8zz9_og
I can hear that lisp a mile away, wow, talk about being light in the loafers, this fella screams one big bowl of fruit loops.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: SimpleMan on May 09, 2025, 05:06:23 PM
Some stuff he had written beforehand sounds like total word salad ... but one red light to me was referring to "Mary, Mother of the Church", refusing her the title Mother of God.

I know you know this, but she is both.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 05:06:47 PM
Although I consider myself a sede I admit that I was momentarily caught up in the conclave, the beauty of the spectacle, the anticipation of looking at that balcony, hoping against all odds some miracle might occur...
and then it took all of about 15 minutes of research once the name was announced to find the following about the creep:
1. Protected pedophiles check
2. Advocated for infinity immigration to the West with all the murders, rapes, assorted crimes and
the misery and taxes that it brings..check
3. enforced communion in the hand check
4. like a true coward and Judas to the faith he remained silent while Bergoglio spread heresy after heresy check
5. Encouraged everyone take the poisonous aborted fetal tissue jab without any regard for their health or soul check
6. in behalf of Jorge he hand selected fellow apostates to be bishops check

Points 1 and 5 alone makes him a criminal worthy of a life sentence in prison but 2, 3, 4, 6 classify him as a demon in human form.

In the coming months I'm sure this list will be greatly expanded
I'.m at the point now, if you pushed the jab, you should be tossed in the chipper. I don't care who you are, fake pope or not.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 05:10:46 PM
What kind of man desires to become a novus ordo presider?  Or enter into the purple palace seminaries?  What kind of fruit can the Novus Ordo establishment produce?  It should be obvious to anyone with eyes to see that the Vatican ll religion is not the Catholic religion and the men who enter those seminaries are not intending to become Catholic priests.
You got the " fruit" part right.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 05:13:40 PM
You got the " fruit" part right.

Yeah ... just one look at that picture of him with JP2 and case closed.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 05:25:27 PM
Some stuff he had written beforehand sounds like total word salad ... but one red light to me was referring to "Mary, Mother of the Church", refusing her the title Mother of God.
Church is the body of Christ? Mary, mother of the Body? I don't know, but it sounds strange.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 09, 2025, 05:47:34 PM
Eh, just another student of jewry this one is

https://www.jta.org/2025/05/08/religion/leo-xiv-first-american-pope-studied-under-a-leader-in-Jєωιѕн-catholic-relations
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 09, 2025, 08:40:27 PM
Church is the body of Christ? Mary, mother of the Body? I don't know, but it sounds strange.

Well, the primary reason they do this is that they don't want to ruffle Prot feathers by referring to Our Lady as Mother of God.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 09, 2025, 09:41:14 PM
A lot of people have this due to teeth extractions and braces pushing the upper and lower jaws backwards.
Not like a reptile. Only jews have the reptile mouth which can vary in dimension. Some look snake-like while others look frog-like, including the lips. But not all jews have the reptile mouth.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 09, 2025, 10:09:37 PM
https://youtu.be/PJKg8OgW2sI?si=Bnp-rOP6MaHS5I7P
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 10, 2025, 03:54:48 AM
https://youtu.be/PJKg8OgW2sI?si=Bnp-rOP6MaHS5I7P
Well, there you have it, just another globalist fag dressed up in fancy garb.

He should should change his name from Leo to kitty.

I'm done with these imposters.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: alaric on May 10, 2025, 03:57:32 AM
Well, the primary reason they do this is that they don't want to ruffle Prot feathers by referring to Our Lady as Mother of God.
You're probably right about that.


You can throw in the joos and muzzies as well.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 10, 2025, 04:18:59 AM
You're crazy. Besides his "Roman nose", I see no Jєωιѕн features on his face.
That's not a Roman nose.

Quote
But I don't see Jews under every bush. I'm not paranoid.
Nor do I, nor am I, but your Jewdar isn't as good as mine.


Again, Prevost isn't full blooded racial jew. I don't think anyone here is saying that either. At most, he is half racial jew from his mom's ancestry whose background is dubious (reportedly "African", "Haitian", "Creole", and other mixes). Based on his eyes, hook claw nose and mouth, I'd say he is at least 1/4 racial jew.



Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on May 10, 2025, 04:40:35 AM
Well, since you posted that physiognomy chart, I do say he bares a striking resemblance to the "Demon" category.  Look closely.  That would be rather ironic.
And that physiognomy chart needs at least five more categories: The vulture face (Ruth Bader Ginsburg), rat face (Lloyd Blankfein), horse face (Sarah Jessica Parker and John "Kerry" [Kohn]), dog face (Helen Hunt), and gargoyle face (but the existing goblin and demon categories can easily substitute it). Not to mention the numerous reptile traits. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Dolores on May 10, 2025, 06:02:04 AM
Well, the primary reason they do this is that they don't want to ruffle Prot feathers by referring to Our Lady as Mother of God.
To be fair, during his speech from the balcony, he did pray, and invited the assembled crowd to pray, the Ave Maria, which of course includes “Holy Mary, Mother of God”.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 06:37:15 AM
To be fair, during his speech from the balcony, he did pray, and invited the assembled crowd to pray, the Ave Maria, which of course includes “Holy Mary, Mother of God”.

No, there's no "to be fair" here.  Let's stop with this sniveling / blubbering pretense of having "chawity" (as Bishop Williamson called it out).  I'm tired of listening to this crap, where if the guy says that God exists he gets "credit" for it.

That's the same horse manure that typifies the errors of Vatican II.  Well, there's GOOD in all these false religions.

NO.  We do not take isolated truths or errors outside the framework in which they exist.  If someone says God exists, that's not true if that religion blasphemes Our Lord.  And for those Prots who appear to show some reverence to Our Lord, no they do NOT honor Our Lord ... when they deride his Blessed Mother.

This crap needs to stop now or you guys are going to lose your faith and get sucked into the Conciliar Entity just like SSPX is doing now.

Leo XIV is a CONCILIAR MODERNIST HERETIC, and if he utters or mutters a proposition that happens to be true IN ISOLATION, that does not mean it's actually true.

If I saw a spoonful of sugar that contained a lethal amount of arsenic, I'm not going to walk around praising the qualities of the sugar, telling people how tasty it is ... lest they be tempted to give it a try.  I call out the POISON that's in the sugar.

In fact, the more sugar there is in it, the more the taste of the lethal arsenic is hidden so that someone might just lick it all up without even noticing.

That's precisely the tactic of this Conciliar Kayfabe ... so stop falling for this crap.  It's the same thing they used to deceive the Trumptards.  Don't you see that the same people are orchestrating both dramas and using the same tacitcs?  You put an egregious over-the-top Leftist into office for 4 years, so that by comparison Trump comes in looking like a Pat Buchanan type of conservative, and people buy into the playacting.  Similarly, after Bergoglio's egregous / outrageous over-the-top heresy, by comparison this Leo character looks like he's just slightly to the left of St. Pius X.

It's done PRECISELY to manipulate weak minds.  Snap out of it.

Let's take the following proposition:  "God exists, and there is one God."  Oh, yes, in cha-wiaty we must say it's true.

OK, but what if this sentence is in this paragraph:  "God exists, and there is one God.  Jesus Christ was a false prophet and a blasphemer and it was right to crucify Him."

So, is that still true?  Are you going to blubber on about how the first sentence is true and thereby indirectly try to legitimate the vile erroneous whole.

Stop it.  This Leo character is a Bergoglian Modernist.

I thought it would take a Sarah or Burke to fool Traddies, but evidently they can pull it off by installing a lifelong Bergoglian who would never have been promoted by Jorge had he a single Traditional Catholic bone in his body.

Also, this Trad, inc. crap has to stop also, where "ah, if he rolls back Amoris Laetitia and Fiducia Supplicans, then he's some Traditionliast."  What's he rolling it back to? ... Answer:  the same Modernist framework that has been destroying faith in souls since ca. 1965.  So now we're going to swallow that pre-Bergoglian Conciliar religion.

How are people so stupid?  Or is it faithless?
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 06:56:15 AM
See, I've come to the conclusion that the Michael Matts and Taylor Marshalls of the world are greater enemies of the Catholic Faith than the open Modernists like Bergoglio ... because they blend the error in with some truth and are therfore more perniciously spreading error to souls who might otherwise be of good faith.  If you have a single Catholic cell in your body, you recognize the non-Catholicity of a Jorge Bergoglio.  I actually respect him for being open and honest.

Bergoglio is trying to persuade you to take a spoonful of poison that practically has that universal POISON label right on the spoon, whereas Trad, Inc. are trying to bury the poison in a tablespoon or more of sugar so you swallow it without tasting and without noticing.

Michael Matt and Taylor Marshall are far more pernicious that the open Modernists.  We need to stop battling the open Modernists and start calling those turds out to expose their errors and try to arrest the damage they're doing to souls.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 06:59:34 AM
Bergoglio was handing this bottle to people at least ...

Hey, have a drink ...
(https://i.etsystatic.com/35785156/r/il/306ed3/4247143224/il_fullxfull.4247143224_hh2q.jpg)
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: ByzCat3000 on May 10, 2025, 07:00:56 AM
See, I've come to the conclusion that the Michael Matts and Taylor Marshalls of the world are greater enemies of the Catholic Faith than the open Modernists like Bergoglio ... because they blend the error in with some truth and are therfore more perniciously spreading error to souls who might otherwise be of good faith.  If you have a single Catholic cell in your body, you recognize the non-Catholicity of a Jorge Bergoglio.  I actually respect him for being open and honest.

Bergoglio is trying to persuade you to take a spoonful of poison that practically has that universal POISON label right on the spoon, whereas Trad, Inc. are trying to bury the poison in a tablespoon or more of sugar so you swallow it without tasting and without noticing.

Michael Matt and Taylor Marshall are far more pernicious that the open Modernists.  We need to stop battling the open Modernists and start calling those turds out to expose their errors and try to arrest the damage they're doing to souls.
Is there some particular reason you assume these two in particular are doing it on purpose?  I know you’ve argued with other people on here who have argued indult types are always in bad faith in general . So why these two specifically?
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 10, 2025, 07:05:54 AM
No, there's no "to be fair" here.  Let's stop with this sniveling / blubbering pretense of having "chawity" (as Bishop Williamson called it out).  I'm tired of listening to this crap, where if the guy says that God exists he gets "credit" for it.

That's the same horse manure that typifies the errors of Vatican II.  Well, there's GOOD in all these false religions.

NO.  We do not take isolated truths or errors outside the framework in which they exist.  If someone says God exists, that's not true if that religion blasphemes Our Lord.  And for those Prots who appear to show some reverence to Our Lord, no they do NOT honor Our Lord ... when they deride his Blessed Mother.

This crap needs to stop now or you guys are going to lose your faith and get sucked into the Conciliar Entity just like SSPX is doing now.

Leo XIV is a CONCILIAR MODERNIST HERETIC, and if he utters or mutters a proposition that happens to be true IN ISOLATION, that does not mean it's actually true.

If I saw a spoonful of sugar that contained a lethal amount of arsenic, I'm not going to walk around praising the qualities of the sugar, telling people how tasty it is ... lest they be tempted to give it a try.  I call out the POISON that's in the sugar.

In fact, the more sugar there is in it, the more the taste of the lethal arsenic is hidden so that someone might just lick it all up without even noticing.

That's precisely the tactic of this Conciliar Kayfabe ... so stop falling for this crap.  It's the same thing they used to deceive the Trumptards.  Don't you see that the same people are orchestrating both dramas and using the same tacitcs?  You put an egregious over-the-top Leftist into office for 4 years, so that by comparison Trump comes in looking like a Pat Buchanan type of conservative, and people buy into the playacting.  Similarly, after Bergoglio's egregous / outrageous over-the-top heresy, by comparison this Leo character looks like he's just slightly to the left of St. Pius X.

It's done PRECISELY to manipulate weak minds.  Snap out of it.

Let's take the following proposition:  "God exists, and there is one God."  Oh, yes, in cha-wiaty we must say it's true.

OK, but what if this sentence is in this paragraph:  "God exists, and there is one God.  Jesus Christ was a false prophet and a blasphemer and it was right to crucify Him."

So, is that still true?  Are you going to blubber on about how the first sentence is true and thereby indirectly try to legitimate the vile erroneous whole.

Stop it.  This Leo character is a Bergoglian Modernist.

I thought it would take a Sarah or Burke to fool Traddies, but evidently they can pull it off by installing a lifelong Bergoglian who would never have been promoted by Jorge had he a single Traditional Catholic bone in his body.

Also, this Trad, inc. crap has to stop also, where "ah, if he rolls back Amoris Laetitia and Fiducia Supplicans, then he's some Traditionliast."  What's he rolling it back to? ... Answer:  the same Modernist framework that has been destroying faith in souls since ca. 1965.  So now we're going to swallow that pre-Bergoglian Conciliar religion.

How are people so stupid?  Or is it faithless?

Thank you. You have contributed to me having a good day! 😄
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 10, 2025, 07:09:29 AM
See, I've come to the conclusion that the Michael Matts and Taylor Marshalls of the world are greater enemies of the Catholic Faith than the open Modernists like Bergoglio 

THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Simeon on May 10, 2025, 07:12:33 AM
Is there some particular reason you assume these two in particular are doing it on purpose?  I know you’ve argued with other people on here who have argued indult types are always in bad faith in general . So why these two specifically?

I cannot answer for Lad, but I'd say that his list is not exhaustive. You could put an "et al." on it and keep the same meaning. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Matthew on May 10, 2025, 07:26:10 AM
Because Michael Matt and Taylor Marshall are the biggest names right now in "Trad Inc."
Maybe throw in John Henry Westen of LifeSiteNews; they have a pretty big website.

But beyond that, I can't even list any others. I don't seek out or consume such "conservative Catholic" content. To be brutally honest, their information, insights, and opinions are far beneath me. I could 100% produce better myself.

So most of them, the small fry, are unknown nobodies. Like with any field, you have a few big names, and then a whole gaggle of nobodies attempting to make a name (and money!) for themselves and be relevant.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Incredulous on May 10, 2025, 07:37:42 AM
Of course, the modernist popes have all had their special judaic characters. 

And each pope was rabbinically managed. That is, they were given scripts to read and act upon.

Such as Montini’s masonic instructions to publicly bless Catholic cremations.

And JPII’s scripts to judaize the world’s Roman Catholic faithful, which he zealously and duplicitously implemented.

So too, we’ll see Robert Provost’s character unfold.

But in some sense, God has given His remnant Church a respite, from the satanic tyranny of the “Destroyer” clown, Bergolio.

Deo gratias!

Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Incredulous on May 10, 2025, 08:33:13 AM
Is there some particular reason you assume these two in particular are doing it on purpose?  I know you’ve argued with other people on here who have argued indult types are always in bad faith in general . So why these two specifically?

ByzCat,

 Perhaps you’ve noticed that Trad media has been systematically infiltrated and sold out?

That ʝʊdɛօ-masonic battle for the hearts & minds of Our Lady’s remnant is aimed at true Tradition.

Matt is a 3rd generation trad newspaper man, who appeared to cave-in to judaic pressures as far back as 2008.

It was this year that he published a small article acknowledging judaism on the front page of his newspaper. It was a sign of some sort.

Since then, he’s compromised on a lot. His ridiculous “Unite the Tribes” campaign being one example. 
 
In essence, he’s saying:
“Give up all your issues concerning the Faith and be one ecuмenical trad family.”

Wouldn’t the jews just love that?


On Dr. Taylor Marshall,
he came from a similar path as recent Marranos (Scott Hahn, Gerry Matatics) They’re jews who went through Protestant seminaries and converted to Catholicism.

Marshal and Hahn are both admitted Opus Dei members.

Marshalls zeal to gain media dominance is well docuмented. 

We can say over 90% of his stuff is trad Catholic, that he cuts & pastes up, for our consumption.

With this pseudo-credibility, he assumes the posture of an expert on Catholicism and many faithful fall for it.

This vacuum happens when our Catholic bishops are silent.

Essentially, the Marrano MO is to gain and use their media credentials to provide misdirection at key junctures. 

Such as Malachi Martin’s promotion of the jew, Wojtyla being Christ’s great & true vicar.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: moneil on May 10, 2025, 08:44:21 AM
 ... but one red light to me was referring to "Mary, Mother of the Church", refusing her the title Mother of God.

The fifth title (out of 54) given to the Blessed Mother in the Litany of Loreto is Mother of the Church.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 05:04:19 PM
The fifth title (out of 54) given to the Blessed Mother in the Litany of Loreto is Mother of the Church.

Lovely ... except that it's used by the Modernists in order not to offend Modernists.
Title: Re: First American Pope?
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 05:04:51 PM
https://youtu.be/DsB6aXEWCeM
Title: Re: First American Pope?
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 05:06:58 PM
Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I

There is ...
(https://magnuslundberg.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/364224879_709589154515790_1570558916041982898_n.jpg?w=700)

https://magnuslundberg.net/2023/08/10/habemus-papam-michael-ii/
Title: Re: First American Pope?
Post by: Predestination2 on May 10, 2025, 06:14:46 PM
There is ...
(https://magnuslundberg.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/364224879_709589154515790_1570558916041982898_n.jpg?w=700)

https://magnuslundberg.net/2023/08/10/habemus-papam-michael-ii/
Crazytown. This guy is married 
Title: Re: First American Pope?
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 07:10:25 PM
Crazytown. This guy is married

So being married is the craziest part of this?  Seriously?  :laugh1:  Not the fact that he thinks Bawden was validly elected by his parents and former girlfriend?

I do find that video above to be quite catchy though.
Title: Re: First American Pope?
Post by: WorldsAway on May 10, 2025, 07:22:22 PM
https://youtu.be/DsB6aXEWCeM
Great video :laugh1: Pope Michael I was certainly more Catholic than any of the conciliar usurpers 
Title: Re: First American Pope?
Post by: Ladislaus on May 10, 2025, 07:49:18 PM
Great video :laugh1: Pope Michael I was certainly more Catholic than any of the conciliar usurpers

Yes, he certainly was.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: VerdenFell on May 10, 2025, 07:52:07 PM
We simply weren't worthy to have Pope Michael I as our pontiff. 
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Michelle on May 10, 2025, 09:08:03 PM

ByzCat,

 Perhaps you’ve noticed that Trad media has been systematically infiltrated and sold out?

That ʝʊdɛօ-masonic battle for the hearts & minds of Our Lady’s remnant is aimed at true Tradition.

Matt is a 3rd generation trad newspaper man, who appeared to cave-in to judaic pressures as far back as 2008.

It was this year that he published a small article acknowledging judaism on the front page of his newspaper. It was a sign of some sort.

Since then, he’s compromised on a lot. His ridiculous “Unite the Tribes” campaign being one example. 
 
In essence, he’s saying:
“Give up all your issues concerning the Faith and be one ecuмenical trad family.”

Wouldn’t the jews just love that?


On Dr. Taylor Marshall,
he came from a similar path as recent Marranos (Scott Hahn, Gerry Matatics) They’re jews who went through Protestant seminaries and converted to Catholicism.

Marshal and Hahn are both admitted Opus Dei members.

Marshalls zeal to gain media dominance is well docuмented. 

We can say over 90% of his stuff is trad Catholic, that he cuts & pastes up, for our consumption.

With this pseudo-credibility, he assumes the posture of an expert on Catholicism and many faithful fall for it.

This vacuum happens when our Catholic bishops are silent.

Essentially, the Marrano MO is to gain and use their media credentials to provide misdirection at key junctures. 

Such as Malachi Martin’s promotion of the jew, Wojtyla being Christ’s great & true vicar.
My mother use to tell us "the devil will tell you 1,000 truths to get in one lie."
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: Michelle on May 10, 2025, 09:19:50 PM
I also remember reading from a saint, I don't remember which one, but he said that the most dangerous heretical sects were the ones with more truth than errors because there is so much good it is harder to convince the followers that it is a false religion.
Title: Re: White smoke at Vatican
Post by: moneil on May 10, 2025, 09:47:21 PM
Lovely ... except that it's used by the Modernists in order not to offend Modernists.
An assertion for which you provide ZERO citations for.  Which other titles given to our Blessed Mother by the Church (the Litany of Loreto was approved by Pope Sixtus V in 1587) do you object to?

Holy Mary, Pray for us.
Holy Mother of God,Pray for us.
Holy Virgin of virgins, Pray for us.
Mother of Christ, Pray for us.
Mother of the Church, Pray for us.
Mother of Mercy,Pray for us. 
Mother of Divine Grace,Pray for us.
Mother of Hope,  Pray for us.
Mother most pure, Pray for us.
Mother most chaste, Pray for us.
Mother inviolate, Pray for us. 
Mother undefiled, Pray for us.
Mother most amiable, Pray for us.
Mother admirable, Pray for us.
Mother of good counsel, Pray for us.
Mother of our Creator, Pray for us. 
Mother of our Savior, Pray for us.
Virgin most prudent, Pray for us.
Virgin most venerable, Pray for us.
Virgin most renowned, Pray for us.
Virgin most powerful, Pray for us. 
Virgin most merciful, Pray for us.
Virgin most faithful, Pray for us.
Mirror of justice, Pray for us.
Seat of wisdom, Pray for us.
Cause of our joy, Pray for us. 
Spiritual vessel, Pray for us.
Vessel of honour, Pray for us.
Singular vessel of devotion, Pray for us.
Mystical rose, Pray for us.
Tower of David, Pray for us. 
Tower of ivory, Pray for us.
House of gold, Pray for us.
Ark of the covenant, Pray for us.
Gate of heaven, Pray for us.
Morning star, Pray for us. 
Health of the sick, Pray for us.
Refuge of sinners, Pray for us.
Solace of migrants,Pray for us.
Comfort of the afflicted, Pray for us.
Help of Christians, Pray for us. 
Queen of Angels, Pray for us.
Queen of Patriarchs, Pray for us.
Queen of Prophets, Pray for us.
Queen of Apostles, Pray for us.
Queen of Martyrs, Pray for us. 
Queen of Confessors, Pray for us.
Queen of Virgins, Pray for us.
Queen of all Saints, Pray for us.
Queen conceived without original sin, Pray for us.
Queen assumed into Heaven, Pray for us. 
Queen of the most Holy Rosary, Pray for us.
Queen of families, Pray for us.
Queen of peace.Pray for us. 

Title: Re: First American Pope?
Post by: SimpleMan on May 10, 2025, 10:27:19 PM
https://youtu.be/DsB6aXEWCeM

What is this video trying to prove?  (Assuming it is "trying to prove" anything at all.)

It looks more like some random, jerky footage of Bawden covered by strange, discordant techno-type music.