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Re: White smoke at Vatican
« Reply #90 on: May 08, 2025, 05:31:38 PM »
Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: White smoke at Vatican
« Reply #91 on: May 08, 2025, 05:35:09 PM »
Let us pray there is a legitimate successor to Pope Michael I

Well, I could have my mom and my wife elect me pope, and that would replicate his legitimacy.

Seriously, though, I do feel sorry for the poor guy ... and would rather have had him as Pope than anyone since St. Pius X.


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Re: White smoke at Vatican
« Reply #92 on: May 08, 2025, 05:37:55 PM »
:facepalm: ... can't believe how stupid people are, including priests?  Yeah, great he's got a name that isn't John or Paul or John Paul.  "Good News".  :facepalm:

Yes, and the whole gaggle of these apostates also continue to call themselves "Catholic".

Being the Modernist that he is, would have been better had he dropped the facade and just called himself "Lucifer I".

What's wrong with his assessment? He's absolutely correct, Pope Leo hearkens back to pre-Vatican II popes, and TAKEN IN ISOLATION is a good thing.
Ever heard of "start with the good news" or "give the devil his due"?

As for "What about the big picture, the important stuff, the elephant in the room?" Fr. Girouard addresses it all later in the letter. His letter was excellent and I see zero problems with it. Even more so, there were no errors in it. Certainly nothing worth criticizing.

Stupid? Not at all. Give me a break!

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: White smoke at Vatican
« Reply #93 on: May 08, 2025, 05:43:50 PM »
What's wrong with his assessment? He's absolutely correct, Pope Leo hearkens back to pre-Vatican II popes, and TAKEN IN ISOLATION is a good thing.

Therein lies the problem, pretending to take things in isolation.  You could take 95% of Vatican II in isolation and it sounds Catholic.  Good News.  Lumen Gentium teaches Three Divine Persons in One God.  Good News, Vatican II teaches that God exists.

This is the very type of thinking, isolating "elements of truth", that prevents people from seeing the entire corrupt whole.

There is no "Good News" about his picking a pre-V2 name, even "in isolation", since the name might actually condition some people to separate him in their minds from the John, Paul, John Paul crowed ... just as Ratzinger did.  So the more they put on their masks, the more deadly and deceptive they become.

Good News.  This bank robber is wearing a Ronald Reagan mask, and Ronald Reagan was a good guy.

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Offline Matthew

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Re: White smoke at Vatican
« Reply #94 on: May 08, 2025, 05:49:18 PM »
Ladislaus, just take the L and admit you're wrong about this.

Here is the very next sentence in faithful Trad priest Fr. Girouard's letter to his flock:

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"But remember: Benedict XVI did the same and came very close to absorbing the Neo-SSPX. This may very well happen now, especially in view of the Neo-SSPX wanting a new bishop."


Sounds almost like he was teeing it up, setting it up, almost St. Thomas Aquinas style -- laying out the objection and then taking it apart.

Was St. Thomas Aquinas at fault by teeing up his arguments in this way as well?

Yes, the more I think about it, I have to conclude that Fr. Girouard was using a rhetorical device here. IT WAS LITERALLY THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE for crying out loud. You couldn't miss it. This very next sentence totally shoots down the idea that "having a Trad pope name" was truly good news. Do you have no ability to discern? Is your sedevacantism making you that blind?

This is NOT a case like Bishop Fellay saying "Vatican II is 95% Catholic" or some such nonsense. That is the best way to deceive people.

Your Sedevacantism is making you prejudiced against good Resistance priests, Fr. Girouard in this case, who have absolutely nothing about them to criticize.