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Offline Giovanni Berto

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Re: White smoke at Vatican
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2025, 01:22:39 PM »
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  • He seems to me to be in the style of John Paul II.

    The revolution advances, just not as fast.


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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #46 on: May 08, 2025, 01:23:38 PM »
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  • So what's doin' in the novus ordo today?

    From an online Liturgy of the Hours:
    https://www.ibreviary.com/m2/breviario.php

    Thursday, 8 May 2025

    Thursday of the Third Week of Easter

    Tipo: Feriale - Tempo: Pasqua


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    What's doin' in the Roman Catholic Church today?

    Thursday, 8 May 2025
    https://www.divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl

    In Apparitione S. Michaëlis Archangeli ~ Duplex majus

    Commemoratio: De II die infra Octavam S. Joseph

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    So the filthy novus ordo sect is calling today of all days a "feria."

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    God decreed the day that jorge became a stinking corpse; and He decreed what day the new imposter would be presented to an abjectly stupid world. 

    God's dates have meaning. 

    Looka here, at some of the other Feasts that the Church celebrated since Easter Monday, the date of bergoglio's judgment:

    Remember that our God arranged all of this. God chose all of these dates:

    In no particular order:

    - St. Athanasius: defender of orthodoxy, even unto protracted extremis;

    - St. Anselm: defender of the Church against an overreaching king;

    - St. George: dragon slayer;

    - St. Fidelis: his name is symbolic and he was stabbed to death by protestant heretics;

    - The Greater Litanies;

    - St. Peter of Verona: αssαssιnαtҽd by Manichaean scuм;

    - St. Catherine of Sienna: who discerned the true Pope and got him to return to His Apostolic See;

    - Sts. Philip and James: mighty Apostles, one of whom was the kinsman of Jesus, and the Bishop of Jerusalem;

    - The Finding of the Holy Cross by St. Helena: mother of he who liberated the Church after 300+ years of dire persecution;

    - St. Monica: famous for her persevering prayer in an impossible cause.

    - St. Joseph, Patron of the Universal Church, Spouse of the Ever Blessed Virgin and Mother of God; 

    - In Apparitione S. Michaëlis Archangeli: Hic est Míchaël Archángelus, princeps milítiæ Angelórum, cujus honor præstat benefícia populórum, et orátio perdúcit ad regna cælórum. Archángelus Míchaël præpósitus paradísi, quem honoríficant Angelórum cives.

    From the First Nocturn: Dan. 7:11: I beheld because of the voice of the great words which that horn spoke: and I saw that the beast was slain, and the body thereof was destroyed, and given to the fire to be burnt.

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    The fake conclave began on the Feast of the Patron of the Universal Church and the putative Father of DNJC. It ended on the Feast of St. Michael, Angel of the Apocalypse, Victor over the devil and his legions, Shepherd of the souls of the Elect. This is not an accident. 

    I don't know who this Prevost is. Soon we will know. In fact, he most likely doesn't matter. What we do know, what we already know, what actually matters, is that our God is not far from us. Perhaps the sword of destruction hanging over the ѕуηαgσgυє's head is beginning to materialize in the mirror of the Church's public worship. Please God!  



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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #47 on: May 08, 2025, 01:23:42 PM »
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  • His theology is thoroughly Bergoglian. But anyone with any sense already knew that with a cardinalate 70% packed by Bergoglio's men, whoever succeeded him would share his theology.

    The surprise (shock, even) is that they chose an American.

    Something political is clearly going on here. I assume the idea is to have greater influence on English speaking countries.

    Likely, Prevost will end up even more reviled than Bergoglio (by English speakers). He shares his politics, promotes immigration, hates Trump and MAGA, etc. but unlike Bergoglio he speaks the language, so he'll be able to upset Americans in a way Bergoglio wasn't. That won't happen over night, but it's definitely a risk.

    He might even make a sede out of some of you ;)
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #48 on: May 08, 2025, 01:25:51 PM »
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  • Cardinal Schönborn has just said on Austrian TV that an important topic in the pre-conclave was synodality. Many cardinals emphasized the need for more teamwork at the top of the Church. Schönborn believes this is one reason why Prevost was chosen. Prevost was also his personal insider tip.

    Oh how I pray they are full steam ahead with their synodal model!

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #49 on: May 08, 2025, 01:28:48 PM »
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  • PREVOST Card. Robert Francis, O.S.A.

    PREVOST title=PREVOST
    Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, O.S.A., Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops, Archbishop-Bishop emeritus of Chiclayo, was born on 14 September 1955 in Chicago (Illinois, United States). IN 1977 he entered the novitiate of the Order of Saint Augustine (O.S.A.) in the province of Our Lady of Good Counsel, in Saint Louis. On 29 August 1981 he gave his solemn vows. He studied at the Catholic Theological Union of Chicago, receiving a diploma in theology.
    At the age of 27 he was sent by the Order to Rome to study canon law at the Pontifical Saint Thomas Aquinas University (Angelicuм). He received priestly ordination on 19 June 1982. He received his licentiate in 1984, and was then sent to work in the mission of Chulucanas, in Piura, Peru (1985-1986).
    In 1987 he was awarded a doctorate with the thesis: “The role of the local prior in the Order of Saint Augustine”. In the same year he was elected director of vocations and director of the missions of the Augustinian province of “Mother of Good Counsel” of Olympia Fields, Illinois, United States of America. In 1988 he was sent to the mission of Trujillo as director of the joint formation project for Augustinian aspirants in the Vicariates of Chulucanas, Iquitos and Apurímac. There he served as community prior (1988-1992), director of formation (1988-1998) and teacher of the professed (1992-1998). In the archdiocese of Trujillo he was judicial vicar (1989-1998), and professor of canon, patristic and moral law in the “San Carlos e San Marcelo” Major Seminary.
    In 1999 he was elected provincial prior of the “Mother of Good Counsel” province, Chicago. After two and a half years, the ordinary general Chapter elected him prior general, a ministry again entrusted to him in the 2007 ordinary general Chapter. In October 2013 he returned to his province (Chicago) to serve as teacher of the professed and provincial vicar, roles he held 3 November 2014, when Pope Francis appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Chiclayo, Peru, elevating him to the dignity of bishop and assigning him the titular diocese of Sufar. On 7 November he took canonical possession of the diocese in the presence of the apostolic nuncio James Patrick Green; he was ordained a bishop on 12 December, Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, in the cathedral of his diocese. He served as bishop of Chiclayo from 26 November 2015. In March 2018 he became second vice president of the Peruvian Episcopal Conference. Pope Francis appointed him a member of the Congregation for the Clergy in 2019, and member of the Congregation for Bishops in 2020.
    On 15 April 2020, the Pope appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Callao.
    On 30 January 2023 Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Prevost as prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops and presidet of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America.
    Created and proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Francis in the Consistory of 30 September 2023, of the Deaconry of Santa Monica.
    Member of:

    • The Dicasteries for: Evangelization, Section for first evangelization and the new particular Churches; the Doctrine of the Faith; the Eastern Churches; the Clergy; the Institutes of Consecrated Life and the Societies of Apostolic Life; Culture and Education; Legislative Texts;
    • The Pontifical Commission for Vatican City State.

    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #50 on: May 08, 2025, 01:30:30 PM »
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  • His theology is thoroughly Bergoglian. But anyone with any sense already knew that with a cardinalate 70% packed by Bergoglio's men, whoever succeeded him would share his theology.

    The surprise (shock, even) is that they chose an American.

    Something political is clearly going on here. I assume the idea is to have greater influence on English speaking countries.

    Likely, Prevost will end up even more reviled than Bergoglio (by English speakers). He shares his politics, promotes immigration, hates Trump and MAGA, etc. but unlike Bergoglio he speaks the language, so he'll be able to upset Americans in a way Bergoglio wasn't. That won't happen over night, but it's definitely a risk.

    He might even make a sede out of some of you ;)

    Was he "created" by Bergoglio?

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #51 on: May 08, 2025, 01:31:32 PM »
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  • Was he "created" by Bergoglio?
    Yes
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #52 on: May 08, 2025, 01:34:26 PM »
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  • PREVOST Card. Robert Francis, O.S.A.

    PREVOST title=PREVOST
    Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, O.S.A., Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops, Archbishop-Bishop emeritus of Chiclayo, was born on 14 September 1955 in Chicago (Illinois, United States). IN 1977 he entered the novitiate of the Order of Saint Augustine (O.S.A.) in the province of Our Lady of Good Counsel, in Saint Louis. On 29 August 1981 he gave his solemn vows. He studied at the Catholic Theological Union of Chicago, receiving a diploma in theology.
    At the age of 27 he was sent by the Order to Rome to study canon law at the Pontifical Saint Thomas Aquinas University (Angelicuм). He received priestly ordination on 19 June 1982. He received his licentiate in 1984, and was then sent to work in the mission of Chulucanas, in Piura, Peru (1985-1986).
    In 1987 he was awarded a doctorate with the thesis: “The role of the local prior in the Order of Saint Augustine”. In the same year he was elected director of vocations and director of the missions of the Augustinian province of “Mother of Good Counsel” of Olympia Fields, Illinois, United States of America. In 1988 he was sent to the mission of Trujillo as director of the joint formation project for Augustinian aspirants in the Vicariates of Chulucanas, Iquitos and Apurímac. There he served as community prior (1988-1992), director of formation (1988-1998) and teacher of the professed (1992-1998). In the archdiocese of Trujillo he was judicial vicar (1989-1998), and professor of canon, patristic and moral law in the “San Carlos e San Marcelo” Major Seminary.
    In 1999 he was elected provincial prior of the “Mother of Good Counsel” province, Chicago. After two and a half years, the ordinary general Chapter elected him prior general, a ministry again entrusted to him in the 2007 ordinary general Chapter. In October 2013 he returned to his province (Chicago) to serve as teacher of the professed and provincial vicar, roles he held 3 November 2014, when Pope Francis appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Chiclayo, Peru, elevating him to the dignity of bishop and assigning him the titular diocese of Sufar. On 7 November he took canonical possession of the diocese in the presence of the apostolic nuncio James Patrick Green; he was ordained a bishop on 12 December, Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, in the cathedral of his diocese. He served as bishop of Chiclayo from 26 November 2015. In March 2018 he became second vice president of the Peruvian Episcopal Conference. Pope Francis appointed him a member of the Congregation for the Clergy in 2019, and member of the Congregation for Bishops in 2020.
    On 15 April 2020, the Pope appointed him apostolic administrator of the diocese of Callao.
    On 30 January 2023 Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Prevost as prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops and presidet of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America.
    Created and proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Francis in the Consistory of 30 September 2023, of the Deaconry of Santa Monica.
    Member of:

    • The Dicasteries for: Evangelization, Section for first evangelization and the new particular Churches; the Doctrine of the Faith; the Eastern Churches; the Clergy; the Institutes of Consecrated Life and the Societies of Apostolic Life; Culture and Education; Legislative Texts;
    • The Pontifical Commission for Vatican City State.

    Thank you!!! Everything we need to know. Invalid bishop, slithering serpent of the americas, and a creature of Bergoglio. 'Nuff said!


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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #53 on: May 08, 2025, 01:37:37 PM »
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  • Note: Matin Luther was also a member of the Order of St. Augustine

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    « Reply #54 on: May 08, 2025, 01:40:16 PM »
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    « Reply #55 on: May 08, 2025, 01:42:41 PM »
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  • https://www.ncronline.org/news/survivor-advocacy-group-sounds-alarm-about-several-papabili-records


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    An advocacy group of survivors of clerical abuse is raising concerns about several cardinals who are buzzed about as papabili, or potential popes.

    Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests held a press conference Wednesday (April 30) in a hotel next to Pope Francis' resting place at the Basilica of St. Mary Major to announce new information about prominent cardinals the group accuses of covering up or mishandling sɛҳuąƖ abuse cases. In addition to compiling accusations and information for the public, SNAP has filed complaints with the Vatican under Pope Francis' Vos Estis Lux Mundi ("You are the light of the world") laws, intended to confront abuse.

    Among those named in the group's complaints are Cardinals Luis Antonio Tagle, Péter Erdő, Robert Prevost and Joseph Tobin. SNAP claimed there is evidence of their ignoring or covering up reports of abuse and seeks full investigations.



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    « Reply #56 on: May 08, 2025, 01:45:04 PM »
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  • https://cruxnow.com/papal-transition/2025/05/papabile-of-the-day-cardinal-robert-francis-prevost

    This article defends him, and makes a case for him. Good defense best offense?

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    In addition, Prevost is among several U.S. cardinals against whom complaints have been lodged by the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP) for allegedly mishandling abuse complaints. One concerns the accused priest in Chicago, the other two priests in Chiclayo in Peru. There is a compelling other side to that story: Multiple parties have defended Prevost’s conduct in both cases, the canon lawyer who initially represented the Peruvian victims is a disgraced ex-priest with an axe to grind, and while in Chiclayo Prevost was head of a successful diocesan commission for child protection. Still, the mere hint of culpability might be enough to worry some electors.

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    Re: White smoke at Vatican
    « Reply #57 on: May 08, 2025, 01:53:40 PM »
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  • "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    « Reply #59 on: May 08, 2025, 02:03:36 PM »
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  • https://www.andersonadvocates.com/blog/a-priest-a-principal-a-sɛҳuąƖ-predator-how-fr-richard-mcgrath-escaped-accountability-for-decades/


    Bro Bug comment on the above article May 6th:


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    Editor’s Note: Pope Francis promoted Father Prevost so quickly to the status of Cardinal Bishop of Albano, that, knowing as I do how Pope Francis promotes sɛҳuąƖ perverts and those who protect pedophiles, I did just 15 minutes of research, and presto magico, I found a serial pedophile who is a member of the Augustinian Order, and who was under the jurisdiction of Cardinal Prevost when he was provincial of the Augustinians in their province in Illinois, USA; and who was protected by the future Cardinal despite numerous accusations against him. Here is the story of Friar Richard McGrath by a legal team which represented victims of sɛҳuąƖ abuse. I urge all Catholics to read this.


    Bro Bug comment May 8th:


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    Editor’s Note: THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS. Provost protected the serial child rapist, Friar Richard McGrath, an Augustinian Monk, like Prevost, in Illinois, and ignored numerous women who had been abused in Peru. For more on this see here: https://www.fromrome.info/2025/05/06/augustinian-fr-richard-mcgrath-the-serial-pedophile-protected-by-cardinal-prevost/

    His position on the heretical and blasphemous “Fiducia supplicans” is not Catholic, since he says that Bishops should be allowed to implement it as they want: that is simply NOT CATHOLIC, that is heresy. The Catholic Church is not the Anglican Church where doctrine is up for grabs.  For more information on this see here: https://www.fromrome.info/2025/05/08/cardinal-prevost-is-a-formal-manifest-heretic-approves-of-fiducia-supplicans/

    On this basis, I say that Prevost’s election MUST BE PRESUMED TO BE INVALID in virtue of Pope Pius IV’s Bull, “cuм ex apostolatus officio”.
    I believe my judgement is shared by the Catholic Cardinals, none of whom were seen on the balconies of the Basilica of Saint Peter for the announcement of the election of Prevost. That is very significant. Cardinal Burke was not present even though he is an American.

    Finally, I have listened to priests preach for all my life, as I go to daily mass, when I can; and I can tell you that I have never heard a man preach like Cardinal Prevost, on the balcony today, who sounds like he does not believe anything he is saying. His numerous praises of Pope Francis confirms his heretical communion with him.