Author Topic: Where to go from here? (Read 3436 times)

Oremus · « **on:** November 24, 2010, 11:06:55 AM »

So I visit the site often but I don't post because I don't feel as if I have anything to contribute to the conversations. I'm a new Catholic and I am not on the Catholic knowledge level that all of you are.

However, I've been reading all of the posts regarding the Pope's statements in the newly released book and now I'm really confused.

Condoms: It sounds like the Pope is saying that condoms can somehow help someone to be a morally responsible person.

Bishop Williamson: I find it difficult to believe that with all of the people around the Pope, and the accessibility of the internet, that the Pope could get those comments so wrong. It's almost as if they were blatant.

Jews: We're not supposed to pray for the conversion of Jews? Since when?

These are my observations as a new Catholic and so I can see how the media could interpret these different comments the way they did. I'm not totally naive; I know that the media has it out for the Church, but the comments were vague and confusing.

My question is this: I've been reading the Bible from the beginning and it seems to me that God always punished the person in charge instead of the followers. When all the kings of the Old Testament lead their people to worship false idols, for example, it was the king that was punished.

So while I want to throw my hands up and acknowledge that the Chair of Peter may actually be vacant, I'm reminded that it is our leaders that will have to answer for leading the flock astray. Or, am I getting it totally wrong and do I have an obligation to seek the truth?

I ask as a confused person, not as someone trying to start a debate.

Belloc · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2010, 11:15:20 AM »

Condoms-Pope merely said that if you are going to sin sɛҳuąƖly, dont infect other people...but this is nto the message really he needs to promote, it is one of virtue, sanctity and abstinance....the comments were ill advised, misleading and .....well, you get it

Pope-yes, he is Pope, I dont have authority to say that prior to election, he was excommunicated formally, as required I think.

jews-most are secualr and indifferent, yet the тαℓмυdic teaching still permeates world view and officially, тαℓмυdic jw is opposed to Christ...yes, prayers for conversions much needed.

your bible/leaders quote, true, no one said after David had Uriah killed, he lost his seat as King, High Priest or both.....he had time to repent....

media and many in/out fo church, happy to distort, lie, conive....

throw hands-tempting and sometimes, one has to give out and do something relieving and enjoyable in life, but giving up, not an option......Giving out, Vlad has, he does not post heremuch, he is young, busy and trying to stay focused on positive...

Alexandria · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2010, 11:25:48 AM »

That's Belloc's opinion.

You have to make up your own mind. Many have been in your shoes. Pray to the Holy Ghost and to Our Lady of Good Counsel to show you the path you must take during these horrendous days in Holy Mother Church.

Knowing only too well what you are going through, I will say a prayer to Our Lady for you.

Don't blame it on the media. The church gives them more than enough ammunition.

Belloc · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2010, 11:29:57 AM »

True, the Churchmen have given plenty of ammo and miles of rope....anyway, that my opinion

:rolleyes:

Dawn · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2010, 11:51:28 AM »

Alexandria is right.You must pray to the Holy Ghost. Then, you must also have Him help with fear too.