Author Topic: Where have all the children gone? (Read 5629 times)

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #35 on:** February 12, 2017, 12:17:20 PM »

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Like I said above, a big reason the young people leave the chapels is to find work. The reason for this is that in the USA (that is where I live, though I was not born here) American parents are like snakes. They lay their eggs, and the children are left to fend for themselves to learn an occupation. Naturally, the children will leave the house and go find work out of town and then start a family and lay their own eggs, and the cycle will continue.

In Italy, Spain, and South America as examples (Catholic cultures) the father teaches his sons the business, and the sons stay with the family. The mothers teach the girls to cook and take care of the family, and do work the women can do, like the accounting for the family business. American parents let their children play, while they cook and work, never passing on any knowledge to their children, strictly letting the schools do it.

This is a false (romantic) image of Italy and I suspect Spain.

Nevertheless, it is the traditional historical way parents prepared children to best provide for themselves , whether they do it or not today in Italy.

John Grace · « **Reply #36 on:** February 12, 2017, 01:39:13 PM »

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+ Williamson once said "Modesty is the guardian of purity" a point well made regarding our little ladies, and big girls too.

Many are not aware and oblivious and others should know better. Last evening a Catholic girl circulated a video of a tv show that had promoted lewdness and degeneracy. I refer to the Late Late show here in Ireland.

The girl that commented on it seemed oblivious it was an occasion of sin to share it nevermind watch it. It's always disappointing when Catholics, who should know better circulate such filth. I am inclined to believe it is ignorance as opposed to an uncatholic woman.

A columnist in the newspaper Catholic Voice is advocating a crusade for modesty here in Ireland. Hopefully many people will support it. I have always agreed with Bishop Williamson regarding women and indeed men. Decent women are few and far between. The lack of children will be the logical consequences.

In Ireland there are fewer children because of the contraceptive mentality not being addressed at all by the pro-life lobby. Perhaps one of two groups but few pay heed to them.

As Bishop Williamson stated in a previous EC it goes back to the home. If Catholic women or indeed men see nothing wrong with sharing videos about these trashy tv shows things will worsen. Apparently at the end of the show contraception was given to all the single men and women in the audience.

I would be recommended as many as possible get behind this modesty crusade and surely the 15 mysteries of the rosary daily. Some won't agree but throw away the television. There are plenty of activities you can do.

John Grace · « **Reply #37 on:** February 12, 2017, 01:51:42 PM »

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Statistically, trad young adults are just as infected with 'the world' as any other young adult population. As atheism is growing, so a small % of trads will be infected with this and their Faith will become lax and they may stop going to church for a while. I've seen this more than a few times.

As the indult grows, a large % will leave tradition and attend this. At our chapel, we've lost about 70% of one generation to the indult. Young adults, who haven't read anything about V2 or the new mass, who only care about social media, get duped by the 'positive and happy' novus ordo-ites who think that "the latin mass is coming back! Everything's going to be rosy". Plus, the millenial generation cannot stand to be an "outsider" or "different", as they want to be "part of the group" just like on facebook. They compromise their faith because of human respect. ...Or they started dating novus ordo/indult catholics and didn't want to 'rock the boat' by trying to convert them to tradition. So they compromised and went to the indult, for love.

Then, there's the normal % of trads who have just given into a partying/fun life. They may still go to mass, but their faith is very weak. A good percentage of these will 'grow up' and become decent catholics at some point. But, some will not.

Finally, there are some who have kept the Faith, lived 'boring' lives, are looked at as 'old fashioned' and who have grown in virtue. These are small in number but they are a great example.

Really, aren't the above 4 categories consistant with the parable of the "Sower of the Seed"?

I think Pax Vobis is largely correct. The siren call of the world and the allure of the flesh and having fun will take a good number of trad children.

Fo sho

John Grace · « **Reply #38 on:** February 12, 2017, 01:53:52 PM »

Mol an óige agus tiocfaidh sí- Praise the youth and they will prosper.

As trads we tradify.

John Grace · « **Reply #39 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:03:18 PM »

Obviously we don't know the mind of God but at a physical and human level it will be a very slow way back to reorganising society here in Ireland. People say we are 10 or 15 years behind the United States in all that is wrong in society.

In Ireland there maybe political fallout from a brewing scandal. 'Google' Maurice McCabe. Our people are not the same people as even ten years ago.

Groups have to remember this when organising. I doubt there will be resignations but the fact is these treasonous politicians should never have been elected.

Their election is proof of the rot. One politician is a lesbian from the United States, who became a Minister for Children. A leading abortion campaign.

Good people are outraged how this man Maurice McCabe and his family was treated. Having said this I don't believe there will be resignations. For those that vote I am not convinced it is an issue people vote about.

A difficult road ahead for the Irish. I still believe it will be small groups of Catholics, who will hold out.

This lesbian politician, a useful pawn is now the one being dumped by the so called Irish government. She was influential in getting 'same sex marriage' and the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs in Ireland can adopt children. No longer needed she is the 'fall guy' in this current political scandal. A Garda/Policeman was smeared for doing his duty.

I am convinced more than ever the 'devil is in Leinster House'. A man we all know calls the so called Irish parliament the devils house.

This Children's Minister "married to her lesbian partner" is a leading abortion campaigner. A positive and plus to pro-life lobby is the enemy are divided but there is quite a fight ahead.