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Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?

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Offline Truth is Eternal

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Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
« on: October 08, 2017, 12:31:15 PM »
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  •  :incense:  :heretic:
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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 12:42:11 PM »
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  • That is like asking, is the Atlantic Ocean salty or sweet water?

    Everyone that dies a heretic, goes to hell. As long as a heretic remains alive, he can convert and save his soul.

    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 12:47:39 PM »
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  • That is like asking, is the Atlantic Ocean salty or sweet water?

    Everyone that dies a heretic, goes to hell. As long as a heretic remains alive, he can convert and save his soul.
    I have posted this on poll on Protestant forums and they refuse to answer the question. ;D
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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 09:51:04 PM »
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  • I have posted this on poll on Protestant forums and they refuse to answer the question. ;D
    But for Catholics it is not a question. :fryingpan:
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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 10:56:42 PM »
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  • But for Catholics it is not a question. :fryingpan:
    We also have to smoke out the pretend Catholics. :)
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."


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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #5 on: October 08, 2017, 11:07:40 PM »
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  • ... and fornicate for purity...
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 11:21:30 PM »
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  • We also have to smoke out the pretend Catholics. :)
    Who is/are "we" and what are "we" going to do with them after they are smoked?
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #7 on: October 09, 2017, 01:59:36 AM »
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  • From the Baltimore Catechism;

    Q. 510. Is it ever possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church?
    A. It is possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, provided that person:
    1.(1) Has been validly baptized;
    2.(2) Firmly believes the religion he professes and practices to be the true religion, and
    3.(3) Dies without the guilt of mortal sin on his soul.

    Q. 511. Why do we say it is only possible for a person to be saved who does not know the CatholicChurch to be the true Church?
    A. We say it is only possible for a person to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, because the necessary conditions are not often found, especially that of dying in a state of grace without making use of the Sacrament of Penance.

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/catechism/baltimore-catechism/lesson-11-on-the-church


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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #8 on: October 09, 2017, 02:23:38 AM »
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  • Accurate or not, what is the relevance Che?
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #9 on: October 09, 2017, 04:41:02 PM »
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  • Who is/are "we" and what are "we" going to do with them after they are smoked?
    The "we" is those of us who believe all heretics go to hell after God's judgment. After they are smoked out, they will just be left exposed until if they convert.
    "I Think it is Time Cathinfo Has a Public Profession of Belief." "Thank you for publicly affirming the necessity of believing, without innovations, all Infallibly Defined Dogmas of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."

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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #10 on: October 09, 2017, 11:08:39 PM »
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  • Accurate or not, what is the relevance Che?
    The tradition of the Catholic Church says that, barring a revelation from God, we do not know for sure where they or anybody else for that matter goes when they die.   


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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 11:09:52 PM »
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  • The tradition of the Catholic Church says that, barring a revelation from God, we do not know for sure where they or anybody else for that matter goes when they die.  
    Cites/refs pls.

    A clue in the form of a question Mr. Che; what, for example, is an article of faith?
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 11:25:38 PM »
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  • The tradition of the Catholic Church says that, barring a revelation from God, we do not know for sure where they or anybody else for that matter goes when they die.  

    I'll give you some more; what is heresy, and what is a heretic?

    Here's a really big one; is the post-baptismal, obstinate/pertinacious doubt or denial of that which must be held with divine and Catholic faith a mortal sin?

    Here's another; Where do those who die disgraced/with even one mortal sin go? You say that we don't know, which puts you in peril of finding out how wrong that you are.

    You fail(?) to render distinct and so conflate knowing who is/n't, which can be known via externals, and the consequences of being such.

    Now, the original question is what?

    " Where Does Heretic go After God's Judgement?"

    Think it through:
    1. "Does" He goes somewhere:
     1. Heaven
     2. Hell
     3. Purgatory

    Anything to add?

    2. It clearly say/the determination has been made that this person is heretic.
    3. The person has been judged by God, who tacitly has at minimum, "signed off" on the verdict of "guilty of heresy"


    So I ask you again, besides the above, "relevance?"
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #13 on: October 10, 2017, 01:43:56 AM »
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  • I'll give you some more; what is heresy, and what is a heretic?

    Here's a really big one; is the post-baptismal, obstinate/pertinacious doubt or denial of that which must be held with divine and Catholic faith a mortal sin?

    Here's another; Where do those who die disgraced/with even one mortal sin go? You say that we don't know, which puts you in peril of finding out how wrong that you are.

    You fail(?) to render distinct and so conflate knowing who is/n't, which can be known via externals, and the consequences of being such.

    Now, the original question is what?

    " Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?"

    Think it through:
    1. "Does" He goes somewhere:
     1. Heaven
     2. Hell
     3. Purgatory

    Anything to add?

    2. It clearly say/the determination has been made that this person is a heretic.
    3. The person has been judged by God, who tacitly has at minimum, "signed off" on the verdict of "guilty of heresy"


    So I ask you again, besides the above, "relevance?"
    What I said is quoted from the Baltimore Catechism, the catechism in use for generations before Vatican II. I think they know better than us.

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    Re: Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgement?
    « Reply #14 on: October 10, 2017, 01:54:21 AM »
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  • What I said is quoted from the Baltimore Catechism, the catechism in use for generations before Vatican II. I think they know better than us.
    HOW.
    IS.
    IT.
    RELEVANT?

    Do you sincerely not get the difference between a thing being, and being applicable/RELEVANT to another thing?

    I'll grant you, for the sake of discussion and further clarity, that it is absolutely and unarguably, coram Deo, God's struth. 

    Now that we've that out of the way, ...


    SO
    WHAT?
     
    "Lord, have mercy".