Author Topic: When Pope Peter II is elected and Crisis is over... (Read 9528 times)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #60 on:** July 21, 2010, 01:15:28 PM »

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Some first-hand observers are biased and blind. Remember?

and you fear the Father Cekada is influencing SV's world-wide via the net, but for some reason we need to be proximate to get valid info?

No, I do not fear Fr. Cekada's influence upon SV's world-wide, dear.

(please excuse typo of the word spiritual above; caused by double-spacing)

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #61 on:** July 21, 2010, 07:50:43 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

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Are you going to withdraw your allegation that Father Cekada is financially and otherwise still connected to SSPV, or are you going to supply the solid evidence like you ageed to do?

No, as I said, I am not going to name names of mutual

I don't want you to name names of mutual benefactors. Unless you have amnesia you know that I already explained to you that some mutual benefactors do not mean that Father Cekada has financial links to SSPV.

What real fiinancial links to SSPV does Father Cekada have?

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #62 on:** July 21, 2010, 07:54:27 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

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I am not sure why you don't understand what is going on there as well as many others do who are both near and far.

Please give me the names of those who understand what is going on, those both near and far.

Too long a list.

And on principle I would not give names, just like you won't (not that I wanted you to).

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #63 on:** July 21, 2010, 07:57:50 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Are you going to withdraw your allegation that Father Cekada is financially and otherwise still connected to SSPV, or are you going to supply the solid evidence like you ageed to do?

No, as I said, I am not going to name names of mutual

benefactors. Especially while you hide behind an Internet pseudonym

while I do not. Who are you, and why do you care what someone as

ridiculous, comical, intellectually clouded, blind,and upset writes?

As for the "otherwise" when the time is right, when I am able to receive

the proper spiritual counsel, and not one moment earlier.

spiritual

Gee didn't it cross your mind to get that "proper spiritual counsel" before you made the allegations? The cat's already out of the bag -- more than one moment earlier.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #64 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:11:17 PM »

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Gee didn't it cross your mind to get that "proper spiritual counsel" before you made the allegations? The cat's already out of the bag -- more than one moment earlier.

You had better take it easy, Roman Catholic.

First, you have zero information as to the spiritual counsel I take, when I take it, and who counsels me, or when they counsel me.

You said, "And on principle I would not give names (not that I wanted you to)"

Well there you are. You cannot have it both ways, can you?

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #65 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:35:28 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

You said, "And on principle I would not give names (not that I wanted you to)"

Well there you are. You cannot have it both ways, can you?

I think you better take it easy. I never asked you for names. You aked me for names. Remember???

Elizabeth · « **Reply #66 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:54:17 PM »

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Remember though I asked for verifiable information. And please keep on point. Offer support for your allegation that Father Cekada still has financial and other ties to SSPV.

The verifiable information will have the names, as I am certain you understand.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #67 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:59:29 PM »

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Unless you have amnesia you know that I already explained to you that some mutual benefactors do not mean that Father Cekada has financial links to SSPV.

No, you did not explain. You were giggling a lot.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #68 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:00:14 PM »

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SSPX faithful, even priests and bishops, wouldn't find anything different.

Matthew,

There is a lot of gravy flowing through the SSPX's hands and those at the top are rather independent -- they do not look to Rome for guidance, but call their own shots. It is not as simple as you might think, and I think it is quite possible that trads of all stripes will find certain things different, if not actually difficult.

Bottom line: ANY restoration will involve a truck-load of grace, so there is NO WAY to tell how certain men will receive it when the time comes. I pray that ALL handle the transition graciously and gratefully, rejoicing that the darkness has given way to the dawn -- period. Godspeed.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #69 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:01:21 PM »

RC/JO,

G'day and welcome back :)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #70 on:** July 21, 2010, 10:04:11 PM »

Which Apostle would have believed most readily that Our Lord had risen from the dead? The reality would probably have surprised those who had moved among them for three years prior to the Crucifixion.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #71 on:** July 22, 2010, 07:02:08 PM »

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I vehemently deny there is any such trajectory. That is complete bull****. The burden of proof is on you, Mr. Wrong.

Ah, one man's bovine excrement is another man's caviar. :roll-laugh1:

Or is it the other way around? I've never had caviar but it sounds kindof disgusting.

I'll try to explain why I think this way later on tonight.

Alexandria · « **Reply #72 on:** November 11, 2010, 04:20:23 PM »

That's an interesting link.

Dawn · « **Reply #73 on:** November 11, 2010, 04:34:33 PM »

Indeed. What have we here? Another CM or another recusant where nobody passes his litmus test?

Alexandria · « **Reply #74 on:** November 11, 2010, 04:36:29 PM »

Sounds like he is under another Francis Schuckardt.