Author Topic: When Pope Peter II is elected and Crisis is over... (Read 9537 times)

Dawn · « **Reply #75 on:** November 11, 2010, 04:51:47 PM »

Very interesting site did you check it out? I mean I do not agree with some of these assessments but someone here should know who this is

Alexandria · « **Reply #76 on:** November 11, 2010, 04:54:01 PM »

Yes, I did check it out. He sounds like a Francis Schuckardt type of bishop who has total control of his flock. A real cult.

Absolute insanity no matter which way you turn!

obediens · « **Reply #77 on:** November 11, 2010, 05:26:47 PM »

Bishop Louis Vezelis is nowhere near Schuckardt. However what is important in this post is the true identity of Neal Webster which not many people know.

Alexandria · « **Reply #78 on:** November 11, 2010, 05:29:04 PM »

How do we know it is the truth?

It says that he is a "Bircher" - that's interesting. I started a thread about the JBS which didn't get much attention. Why is Neil Webster being a "Bircher" a black mark against him?

Alexandria · « **Reply #79 on:** November 11, 2010, 05:49:42 PM »

Yes, but what is so bad about being a "Bircher" - that is what I am trying to find out. I have found a lot of traditional Catholics connected in some way to this organization.

Dawn · « **Reply #80 on:** November 11, 2010, 05:56:29 PM »

The tone in the little I read on this site was positively prideful and hateful. I have been drawn to the Dominican Third Order because of all I know, and read about Bp. McKenna. Why do I get such a strange feeling reading your articles? The style reminds me of some on here who claim to be the Pope and are very venomous in their writing style. You exhibit nothing of St. Francis in those articles.

Alexandria · « **Reply #81 on:** November 11, 2010, 08:02:28 PM »

Why does everyone avoid my John Birch Society questions? Now I'm really getting suspicious.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #82 on:** November 11, 2010, 09:24:04 PM »

Quote from: Alexandria

How do we know it is the truth?

It says that he is a "Bircher" - that's interesting. I started a thread about the JBS which didn't get much attention. Why is Neil Webster being a "Bircher" a black mark against him?

I was eager to examine the Birch issue, and still am. :pop:

Emerentiana · « **Reply #83 on:** November 11, 2010, 09:50:35 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Who (SSPX, Independent or Sedevacantist) will be in a better position -- who will have formed their faithful/clergy better -- for the post-Crisis era? That is, which side will give birth to less schismatic groups?

Who will have REALLY kept the Faith whole and inviolate, including the doctrine of the Papacy? Who will be accustomed to following orders, not being a maverick, etc.?

Those who are their own personal pope will have the hardest time.

It seems to me that Sedevacantist faithful, priests, and bishops will have a hard time putting on a yoke that they have never worn. Can you imagine Fr. Cekada taking a position in a parish "somewhere" and having to follow orders from a bishop that isn't his personal friend? Having to live on $35,000 a year, which would require a huge drop in his standard of living? But independent priests everywhere would no longer be able to run the whole show. That would take some getting used to, and many would fall to the temptation of schism.

One small example: Right now, an independent priest can wear a clerical suit or a cassock -- it depends on how "faithful" or "traditional" he feels like being. But someday, a restored Catholic Church might require the cassock for every priest.

There would be dozens of things like this.

SSPX faithful, even priests and bishops, wouldn't find anything different. They will be well-equipped for life after the crisis. The priests would continue to follow orders. Dallas, TX? Yes, father. India? Yes, father.

That tells me that the SSPX has a better stance vis-a-vis the Crisis, since it allows them to fit into a "normal Catholic Church" situation with less risk of schism.

What I wonder is that the SSPX priests, who say mass for the most part only in chapels, will be able to cope when the mass suddenly goes underground in the persecution ahead. Will they have the courage to go thru checkpoints and say mass in a home or some other secret place? Will they risk their lives to bring the sacraments to the faithful? All priests will have to go thru this, and I dont think they are more or any less adept for this than any other priest is!