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Offline Stephen Francis

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Whats up with this card?
« on: July 09, 2013, 01:41:21 PM »
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    • Someone gave me a Divine Mercy card (I know - it's bogus, but he's old and possibly semi-senile and we're both Polish, so I took it as a kind gesture).

    It's supposedly published by the Marian Fathers of the Immaculate Conception. The card has the Divine Mercy chaplet on it.

    The concluding prayer goes:

    "Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy Immortal One," etc.

    I was under the impression that "Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal..." is one of the phrases used in prayer by the 'Orthodox' schismatic groups.

    Am I mistaken, or is this another Novus Ordo attempt to prepare people for a blasphemous and heretical 'reunion' between the false Newchurch and the apostates from the schismatic crowd?

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
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    Offline Penitent

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    Whats up with this card?
    « Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 03:52:33 PM »
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    • That's the Trisagion.  It's more common in the Eastern churches but it is used in the Latin Church on Good Friday.  It's said in both Greek and Latin thus:  Agios o Theos, Sanctus Deus, Agios ischyros, Sanctus fortis, Agios athanatos eleison imas, Sanctus immortalis miserere nobis.
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    Offline Stephen Francis

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    Whats up with this card?
    « Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 04:09:49 PM »
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    • Thank you!

    I am grateful for everything I am able to learn even with no Mass near me!

    It would not have surprised me if the prayer was ecuмenical in a negative way, but I'm glad it's traditional.

    All the same, since in this case it's part of the Divine Mercy devotion, I won't be keeping the card (or at least not displaying it).

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

    Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
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    Offline Emitte Lucem Tuam

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    Whats up with this card?
    « Reply #3 on: July 09, 2013, 08:27:34 PM »
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    • The Trisagion is a beautiful prayer.  Chanted by the choir on Good Friday, it is a hauntingly beautiful adoration prayer to Almighty God.

    To be honest, I'm surprised that a Novus Ordoite even knows the prayer, never mind having it printed on a prayer card.

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    Offline poche

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    Whats up with this card?
    « Reply #4 on: July 12, 2013, 12:41:48 AM »
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    • It is not everybody that uses the Byzantine rite is a schismatic. There are many Catholics who use the Byzantine rite.
    They also say this prayer in the Mozarabic rite.
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    Offline TKGS

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    Whats up with this card?
    « Reply #5 on: July 12, 2013, 06:53:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: Emitte Lucem Tuam
    The Trisagion is a beautiful prayer.  Chanted by the choir on Good Friday, it is a hauntingly beautiful adoration prayer to Almighty God.

    To be honest, I'm surprised that a Novus Ordoite even knows the prayer, never mind having it printed on a prayer card.


    This prayer is an integral part of the Divine Mercy Chaplet which is said using rosary beads.  The Divine Mercy Chaplet is used by many in the Novus Ordo and, in my experience, is replacing the Rosary among many in the Novus Ordo because it is much easier to say and takes less than five minutes.  It was introduced by (or, more likely, in the name of) a Polish nun named Sister Faustina in (I think) the 1930s but was suppressed by the Holy Office.  John Paul 2 brought it out and championed it because it is a perfect ecuмenical prayer for his purposes.  The fact that the pre-Vatican II Vatican saw problems with it and with Sister Faustina's writings did not stop John Paul 2 from canonizing her as a Conciliar saint.

    While there is nothing intrinsically wrong with the chapel itself, it is how the Novus Ordo community uses it that is problematic.
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