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Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Montfort on May 26, 2015, 11:01:05 PM
I was thinking this to myself and just thought I'd share it. I was thinking about a time when everything in the Church will be made right and we will have a reliable hierarchy. (Perhaps during the period of peace?)
What would you like to see added (I say added in a way that's in full accordance with Tradition of course) to Holy Mother Church?
For myself, I would like it to be a universal practice of blue vestments for feasts for Our Lady. Also, to see St. Louis De Montfort be declared a Doctor of the Universal Church.
Anyhow, I'm sure there would be far bigger things than these two. These two however for me would be quite nice to see.

 :cheers:
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Cantarella on May 27, 2015, 12:34:39 AM
What I would like to see is the rise of the Great Catholic Monarch who will restore the Church & Christendom, annihilate ʝʊdɛօ - Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and destroy all heretics and blasphemers.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: LaramieHirsch on May 27, 2015, 12:43:14 AM
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What would you like to see happen?, Just for fun


Destruction.  I would like to see the destruction of everything we know as "modern."  Not technology, skyscrapers, cars, and such.  I'm talking about all of the superficial things that comprise our modern society.  Sodomites.  A criminal welfare class.  Road rage.  Never-ending texting.  So much needs to go.  

I think that justice demands it.  

I often feel like I'm Jonah, and I'm put out with Nineveh.  To see the ends of the earth shaken, and to behold the fear of people once they realize there is a God who's very pissed with them...that would be something that would give me satisfaction.  Justice demands it at this point.  I know it sounds macabre, but I'm sure that most believers will be where I'm at once they experience some severe persecution and hardship in the next decades.  I'm pretty sure a lot of those persecuted Iraqi Christians wish God would come out and annihilate their enemies.


But, taking a closer look at your OP:

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I was thinking about a time when everything in the Church will be made right and we will have a reliable hierarchy. (Perhaps during the period of peace?)
What would you like to see added (I say added in a way that's in full accordance with Tradition of course) to Holy Mother Church?


I honestly can't imagine anything better or good.  I am so accustomed to a degrading Church and a degrading society.  

A good and wholesome Catholic monarchy sounds nice in theory.  Pomp and ritual--a celebration of sacred things--I wonder what that kind of civic display would resemble.  

To no longer fear for the innocence of my children and my grandchildren...I cannot even imagine what it would be like to be at peace on that issue.  

I have a hard time imagining a better world.  I am too preoccupied with desiring justice.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: MrYeZe on May 27, 2015, 01:13:28 AM
Isn't it obvious from my profile picture?

 :dwarf: :dwarf: :dwarf: :heretic: :heretic: :heretic: :heretic: :heretic: :heretic: :heretic:

Also, a "Europe For Europeans" movement that actually succeeds.  I don't hate other races, but I also want a homeland for my own, which is okay for literally every other race except for whites, for some reason.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Marlelar on May 27, 2015, 02:20:08 AM
A return to village life with a quiet, peaceful, little church at one end.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: jen51 on May 27, 2015, 10:47:12 AM
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A return to village life with a quiet, peaceful, little church at one end.


A very refreshing thought, that.

To add to that, small traditional villages where the most prominent and pivotal structure in town, the Catholic Church with a large steeple, is centrally located.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: MrYeZe on May 28, 2015, 11:48:46 PM
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Quote from: Marlelar
A return to village life with a quiet, peaceful, little church at one end.


A very refreshing thought, that.

To add to that, small traditional villages where the most prominent and pivotal structure in town, the Catholic Church with a large steeple, is centrally located.


I don't think that's a possibility any more.  Everything's way to centralized for disconnected villages like that to be very common anymore.  
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: AMDGJMJ on May 29, 2015, 06:47:59 AM
Quote from: MrYeZe
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Quote from: Marlelar
A return to village life with a quiet, peaceful, little church at one end.


A very refreshing thought, that.

To add to that, small traditional villages where the most prominent and pivotal structure in town, the Catholic Church with a large steeple, is centrally located.


I don't think that's a possibility any more.  Everything's way to centralized for disconnected villages like that to be very common anymore.  


I think that when the restoration of the Church happens, most people will hardly recognize it, sort of like how the apostles hardly recognized Our Blessed Lord after His Ressurection...

And I think that a quiet village life is possible, of course, if it is the will of God.  :-)
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: jen51 on May 29, 2015, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: MrYeZe
Quote from: jen51
Quote from: Marlelar
A return to village life with a quiet, peaceful, little church at one end.


A very refreshing thought, that.

To add to that, small traditional villages where the most prominent and pivotal structure in town, the Catholic Church with a large steeple, is centrally located.


I don't think that's a possibility any more.  Everything's way to centralized for disconnected villages like that to be very common anymore.  


I can always dream about it here in the states. But it's definitely possible in places. In Croatia, a Catholic country, for example. There's still some of what I describe going on.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Stubborn on May 29, 2015, 10:14:16 AM
I would like to see some saints, priests, bishops and popes return from past centuries to hear what they would have to say about today's crisis.

I would love to hear and have the whole world hear St. Patrick right now, this minute, and hear Pope St. Pius V speak, St. Alphonsus and perhaps St. Issac Joques (to name only a few) preach. I would love to see and hear how they demolish the spineless, wimpy excuses for clergy and hierarchy we have today, how *they* use the faith to battle the Jews, heretics, apostates etc.

I don't think that's asking for too much  :dancing:  
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: snowball on May 29, 2015, 12:41:19 PM
The Sign of the Son of Man in the heavens...
as more Biblical prohecy is being fulfilled,
we undersand the great apostasy is part of that.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Montfort on May 29, 2015, 09:31:07 PM
Quote from: Stubborn
I would like to see some saints, priests, bishops and popes return from past centuries to hear what they would have to say about today's crisis.

I would love to hear and have the whole world hear St. Patrick right now, this minute, and hear Pope St. Pius V speak, St. Alphonsus and perhaps St. Issac Joques (to name only a few) preach. I would love to see and hear how they demolish the spineless, wimpy excuses for clergy and hierarchy we have today, how *they* use the faith to battle the Jews, heretics, apostates etc.

I don't think that's asking for too much  :dancing:  


That would be something! Imagine what they would think of the modern look of today's churches built after the council? It would be nice to have a "destroy your local parish day." Fun for the whole family, everyone can bring a sledgehammer. What better way to restore all things in Christ than to destroy the abominable?
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: MrYeZe on June 01, 2015, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: Montfort
Quote from: Stubborn
I would like to see some saints, priests, bishops and popes return from past centuries to hear what they would have to say about today's crisis.

I would love to hear and have the whole world hear St. Patrick right now, this minute, and hear Pope St. Pius V speak, St. Alphonsus and perhaps St. Issac Joques (to name only a few) preach. I would love to see and hear how they demolish the spineless, wimpy excuses for clergy and hierarchy we have today, how *they* use the faith to battle the Jews, heretics, apostates etc.

I don't think that's asking for too much  :dancing:  


That would be something! Imagine what they would think of the modern look of today's churches built after the council? It would be nice to have a "destroy your local parish day." Fun for the whole family, everyone can bring a sledgehammer. What better way to restore all things in Christ than to destroy the abominable?


Smashing ISIS heads with hammers would be a great experience, as well.
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Janine of Bruthen on June 18, 2015, 09:50:18 PM
I would like to see a complete restoration of Catholicism. Get rid of all this modernist rubbish that is Protestantism and humanism dressed in Catholic clothes, bring back the Latin Mass to every single parish in the world, make Catholic schools truly Catholic again, with genuine catechesis...I recommend the Baltimore Catechism, personally, and bring back Catholic culture...don't be ashamed to show the world we ARE Catholic...wear a miraculous medal, abstain from meat on Friday....
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Nadir on June 19, 2015, 02:56:37 AM
Quote from: Stubborn
I would like to see some saints, priests, bishops and popes return from past centuries to hear what they would have to say about today's crisis.

I would love to hear and have the whole world hear St. Patrick right now, this minute, and hear Pope St. Pius V speak, St. Alphonsus and perhaps St. Issac Joques (to name only a few) preach. I would love to see and hear how they demolish the spineless, wimpy excuses for clergy and hierarchy we have today, how *they* use the faith to battle the Jews, heretics, apostates etc.

I don't think that's asking for too much  :dancing:  


I'd like to see some present day saints of the same calibre as those you desire to return, Stubborn.

Certainly Enoch and Elias will be back!
Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 24, 2015, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: Montfort

I was thinking this to myself and just thought I'd share it. I was thinking about a time when everything in the Church will be made right and we will have a reliable hierarchy. (Perhaps during the period of peace?)

What would you like to see added (I say added in a way that's in full accordance with Tradition of course) to Holy Mother Church?

For myself, I would like it to be a universal practice of blue vestments for feasts for Our Lady. Also, to see St. Louis De Montfort be declared a Doctor of the Universal Church.

Anyhow, I'm sure there would be far bigger things than these two. These two however for me would be quite nice to see.

 :cheers:



Good idea on St. Louis Marie Grignion de Montfort.  But you can be sure that won't happen any time soon.  (There would be consequences!!!)  

I have a suggestion on a more practical and immediate level.  I recently picked up a screed scattered around at an airport bus shuttle station that summarizes pretty well the protestant canards attacking the Church, with a Scripture book, chapter and verse attached to each bellyache, of course, presuming the reader is confused and misunderstands the Bible as protestants are wont to do so typically.  I would like to see each of these citations explained in context of that particular screed, concisely and accurately, and it seems to me this could well be a great apologetics tool for all Catholics to memorize.  It would make answering protestant heresies so much simpler if we could get right to the point.  After all, you only have a few seconds before they jump topic and whine about some other doctrine that they 'disagree' with.

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Title: What would you like to see happen?
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 25, 2015, 03:38:49 PM
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The screed I mentioned above has stuff like this in it:

Quote from: Faith Publishing House

"...But thanks be to a most merciful Heavenly Father, He showed me in His most precious Word [deduced by private interpretation of Scripture] that I was as lost and undone as it were possible for me to be [obviously not a direct quote of anything in Scripture].  First He showed me there was only one mediator between God and men our Precious Saviour Jesus Christ. 1 Tim. 2:5.  There is no Scripture for the Virgin Mary as mediator, and as far as I can find in the Holy inspired Word of God, there is no proof that she is in Heaven bodily. 2 Cor. 5:8..."




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