This is an exchange between Eugene and Joseph Saraceno, who calls himself a prophet.

I am only posting this because Joseph sent it to me (and his whole mailing list) -- even though it doesn't cast Joseph in a very saintly light!


From Eugene to Joseph:

You accuse me of "hate", etc. towards you??  It seems you can't distinguish my Christian charity in trying to help you recognize the error of your heretical and CMRI/Jansenist cult mentality and false beliefs.

From Joseph to Eugene:
Charity means that you have the ability to reason, which you do not. Hate is because you LIE in the name of God. You Ignore the fact that Schuckardt and his cronies were kicked out and Bp. Musey brought in. You ignore the fact that Bp. des Laurier was trying to keep from conflicting with the Vatican Council I in it's teaching on the perpetuity of the line of Popes and offered an opinion. I asked your opinion and got no answer, because you don't have an answer and know my answer is the correct answer. That Paul VI brought us into the Great Apostasy and was the "Man of Sin" spoken of by St. Paul. Papal bulls don't applie to an opinion that needs to be clarified by the Church.
If you were Catholic you would know I was a Prophet by what I preach because no man in the history of the world has taught what I teach and prove it with the CATHOLIC FAITH. He who hears you hears ME says the Lord and truth can only come from God. I can not invent truth. Also I might add that I've been preaching the same thing for 38 years and not one priest or person has accused me of being a HERETIC, but you. That should get you into Hell, as Prophet's are God's witnesses here on earth and by prejudging me you damned your soul. Please do not write to me again unless you repent and apologize or GO TO HELL WHERE YOU BELONG FOREVER. Funny how you condemned your self during the week of THE GENERAL JUDGMENT, the last week of PENTECOST. In Christ, The Prophet, Joseph B. D. Saraceno


From Eugene to Joseph:

 You have no shame in espousing that one can go outside the Catholic Church to get  invalid "Holy Orders" and then declare himself a "Roman Catholic priest" and "bishop".  You choose to refuse to accept the authority and teachings of the Catholic church specifically condemning such actions.

Please explain to me your understanding of what you think the Papal Bull of Paul IV means and to whom does it apply.

You have to be willfully blind not to have read it and applied it to the blatant des Laurier heresy.

Tell me how you can prove you are a "prophet"?  I know how Scripture tells how to identify a false prophet.  Did you render a public miracle(s) that attest to your claim?  What is it that you have prophesied?

Let me summarize your position in these contentions we have been discussing:

1) You reject the well-docuмented condemnation of Pope St. Pius X's  against Arnold Mathew and his declaration that the Mathew line is invalid. That's the well-docuмented line of  Daniel Q. Brown. You refuse to read or obey.  That is heresy on your part.

2) You slough off the Papal Bull of Paul IV as it applies aptly to Achilles Lienart's well-docuмented Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and des Laurier well-docuмented "material pope" heresy.  That is further mortal sin and heresy on your part.

3) You claim you are a "prophet" receiving out-of-this-world voices in your head...or something like that, if I remember correctly from what you once told me.  Yet, you have not proved it is from God.  I don't doubt you are hearing strange voices in your head, Joseph.  But based on your extremely non-Catholic doctrinal beliefs and disobedience, don't be too shocked to find out (too late) that they weren't from heaven.

Eugene