Author Topic: What qualities and gifts can pedophiles bring to the Catholic Church? (Read 1352 times)

Jehanne · « **on:** October 15, 2014, 12:30:50 PM »

Is "child love" bad? Cannot it be a "giving and loving" relationship? Does not the Law of Graduality recognize this? We must value pedos, and we must value the gifts and qualities which they can bring to the One True Church, the Catholic Church, or at least to the fake Church, that is, the post-conciliar Church, the modernist Church.

Pedos are human beings; as such, their intrinsic dignity as human persons demands that whatever they are or whatever they do, that the "dignity of human persons" dogma demands respect for any and all of their ideas, behaviors, etc. After all, "Who are you to judge?"

Why can't you rigid Trads understand this very basic concept?!

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2014, 01:30:50 PM »

Indeed, where is poche to provide clarity to us benighted, uncharitable souls?

Matthew · « **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2014, 01:36:19 PM »

For the record, I up-voted the OP. Yes, up-voted.

The OP had only received one downvote at the time, from a person who is obviously ignorant of something called SARCASM or SATIRE.

Once you factor in the satire element, the post is excellent. It makes a salient point. If the Conciliar Church can talk about the "law of graduality" for things like adultery and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, then where does it end?

Jehanne · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2014, 02:19:00 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

For the record, I up-voted the OP. Yes, up-voted.

The OP had only received one downvote at the time, from a person who is obviously ignorant of something called SARCASM or SATIRE.

Once you factor in the satire element, the post is excellent. It makes a salient point. If the Conciliar Church can talk about the "law of graduality" for things like adultery and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, then where does it end?

Yes, it is, of course, a satire; practicing pedophiles deserve the death penalty, as do practicing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2014, 03:02:04 PM »

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So the Jesuits were obeying the law when they did their slow slide into Modernism over about a century but accelerating in the pre-Vat.II years exponentially, correct? That is, obeying the law of Graduality.

I've seen one example of an accelerated version of this phenomenon, because he has only taken about 4 years to accomplish what the Jesuits took 3 decades to pull off. But then, he's a fan of race cars and race car drivers, so it's not a big surprise that he'd make a 'fast track' into theological corruption.

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2014, 03:04:18 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

Indeed, where is poche to provide clarity to us benighted, uncharitable souls?

You shouldn't type that username in your post because the member can then use the search feature to find out who's talking about him. HAHAHAHAHA

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StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2014, 03:06:57 PM »

They have a group I ran across accidentally; my God it was pathetic and disgusting. Supposedly they want "help" and "understanding". And for pedophilia to be recognized as yet another "sɛҳuąƖ orientation". NYT opinion piece last week called out the group, and asked legal protections for peados. The group of pervs is actually called Virtuous Pedophiles. Virped.org.

(I abhor the NYT btw; that was the "accident", and the next few moments were morbid curiosity.)

But it's interesting to me that feminists who wanted divorces, then adulterers, then sodomites and crossdressers all wanted first to be "understood", then wanted protections under the law, then wanted civil rights, and then wanted 100% acceptance in society, and finally invaded the Church (and protestant offshoots) before demanding their evils not only to be accepted, but to be celebrated in some fashion.

I fully expect those who have feelings for beasts to be next up.

Poor beasts. And I detest associating "beasts" in any manner with the evils of the feminists, adulterers, sodomites, paedophiles, and crossdressers.

God created the beasts, after all, and He called them Good. The rest are in the "abomination" column, if I recall.

B from A · « **Reply #7 on:** October 15, 2014, 03:20:26 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Once you factor in the satire element, the post is excellent. It makes a salient point. If the Conciliar Church can talk about the "law of graduality" for things like adultery and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, then where does it end?

Right; if you insert the word "pederast" into the Synod's paragraphs on Sodomites, it is so clear how sick and vile it is.

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Welcoming pederasts
50. Pederasts have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their pederasty, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?
51. The question of pederasty leads to a serious reflection on how to elaborate realistic paths of affective growth and human and evangelical maturity integrating the sɛҳuąƖ dimension: it appears therefore as an important educative challenge. The Church furthermore affirms that pederasty cannot be considered on the same footing as matrimony between man and woman. Nor is it acceptable that pressure be brought to bear on pastors or that international bodies make financial aid dependent on the introduction of regulations inspired by this ideology.
52. Without denying the moral problems connected to pederasty it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the partners. Furthermore, the Church pays special attention to the children who live with pederasts, emphasizing that the needs and rights of the little ones must always be given priority.

One could also insert the other sins that cry to heaven for vengeance in the Synod's writeup:

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Welcoming murderers
50. Murderers have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their murderous inclinations, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the the 5th Commandment?
51. The question of murder leads to a serious reflection on how to elaborate realistic paths of affective growth and human and evangelical maturity integrating the [?] dimension: it appears therefore as an important educative challenge. The Church furthermore affirms that murderers cannot be considered on the same footing as non-murderers. Nor is it acceptable that pressure be brought to bear on pastors or that international bodies make financial aid dependent on the introduction of regulations inspired by murder ideology.
52. Without denying the moral problems connected to murder it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the murderers. Furthermore, the Church pays special attention to the children who live with murderers, emphasizing that the needs and rights of the little ones must always be given priority

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Welcoming those who oppress the poor
50. Those who oppress the poor have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their inclination to oppress the poor, without compromising Catholic doctrine?
51. The question of Oppression of the Poor leads to a serious reflection on how to elaborate realistic paths of affective growth and human and evangelical maturity integrating the [?] dimension: it appears therefore as an important educative challenge. The Church furthermore affirms that those who oppress the poor cannot be considered on the same footing as those who do not oppress the poor. Nor is it acceptable that pressure be brought to bear on pastors or that international bodies make financial aid dependent on the introduction of regulations inspired by Oppression ideology.
52. Without denying the moral problems connected to Oppression of the Poor it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the Oppressors. Furthermore, the Church pays special attention to the children who live with those who Oppress the Poor, emphasizing that the needs and rights of the little ones must always be given priority.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:07:30 PM »

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We should be able to come up with some great material for the MSM to spread far and wide --- except, they WON'T.

- Oppression of the poor;
- The sin of Sodom, pederasty, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ perversion, abomination to God;
- Denying a laborer his just wages;
- Willful murder of the innocent.

There is only one of these 4 sins that cry to heaven for vengeance in which the victim is not immediately obvious. But the victim is there, nonetheless.

When the poor are oppressed, the poor person suffers, and his family does as well.
When a laborer is cheated out of his wages, he suffers, and so does his family.
When the innocent are willfully murdered, the victim is the murdered person and his family is also victimized.

Certainly the participants in the sin of Sodom victimize themselves, but that is not the end of the destruction wrought by this abomination against the divine will of God, for when another person begins to accept the sin of Sodom as somehow tolerable, the person so accepting becomes the new victim, and could ultimately endure eternal damnation for opposing God's will in this matter.

But when society at large begins to accept the sin of Sodom, then it is the innocent members of society that are victimized. A child adopted into a 'same sex marriage' arrangement is not culpable himself, but certainly becomes the object of his own environmental corruption. As it grows, it drags down all the people with it, and as we see lately, anyone who dares to stand up against it on principle faces an ever-increasing gauntlet of punishment for his virtuous fortitude.

In the end, the Sodomites will not rest until their subjective reality becomes the law of the land, and Sodomy becomes the NORM. At the extreme end of this looms the day when it becomes a capital offense punishable by capital punishment, to be HETEROsɛҳuąƖ, or to dare to agree and take sides with those who are so.

Now go read Romans chapter 1 and it will make a lot more sense, especially from verse 18 to the end:

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice...

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Iuvenalis · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2014, 10:22:47 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Iuvenalis
Indeed, where is poche to provide clarity to us benighted, uncharitable souls?

You shouldn't type that username in your post because the member can then use the search feature to find out who's talking about him. HAHAHAHAHA

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Well, I always try to not type things that I'm not willing to stand by. For example, I always try to not post as 'guest' in the anonymous threads. Sometimes I forget, but I make a point of trying to never post anonymously.

This is a public post, so poche can read what I think.

poche · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2014, 11:20:55 PM »

Quote from: Jehanne

Is "child love" bad? Cannot it be a "giving and loving" relationship? Does not the Law of Graduality recognize this? We must value pedos, and we must value the gifts and qualities which they can bring to the One True Church, the Catholic Church, or at least to the fake Church, that is, the post-conciliar Church, the modernist Church.

Pedos are human beings; as such, their intrinsic dignity as human persons demands that whatever they are or whatever they do, that the "dignity of human persons" dogma demands respect for any and all of their ideas, behaviors, etc. After all, "Who are you to judge?"

Why can't you rigid Trads understand this very basic concept?!

The best gifts that I could recommend would be the gift of their conversion. Followed by seclusion in a hermitage where they can weep over their sins and pray for the greater glory of God.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #11 on:** October 16, 2014, 03:35:46 AM »

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Iuvenalis: See there what you get? :geezer:

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

They have a group I ran across accidentally; my God it was pathetic and disgusting. Supposedly they want "help" and "understanding". And for pedophilia to be recognized as yet another "sɛҳuąƖ orientation". NYT opinion piece last week called out the group, and asked legal protections for peados. The group of pervs is actually called Virtuous Pedophiles. Virped.org.

(I abhor the NYT btw; that was the "accident", and the next few moments were morbid curiosity.)

But it's interesting to me that feminists who wanted divorces, then adulterers, then sodomites and crossdressers all wanted first to be "understood", then wanted protections under the law, then wanted civil rights, and then wanted 100% acceptance in society, and finally invaded the Church (and protestant offshoots) before demanding their evils not only to be accepted, but to be celebrated in some fashion.

"In the end, the Sodomites will not rest until their subjective reality becomes the law of the land, and Sodomy becomes the NORM. At the extreme end of this looms the day when it becomes a capital offense punishable by capital punishment, to be HETEROsɛҳuąƖ, or to dare to agree and take sides with those who are so."

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I fully expect those who have feelings for beasts to be next up.

Poor beasts. And I detest associating "beasts" in any manner with the evils of the feminists, adulterers, sodomites, paedophiles, and crossdressers.

God created the beasts, after all, and He called them Good. The rest are in the "abomination" column, if I recall.

"...Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death, and not only they that do them, but they also who consent to them that do them." (Rom. i. 32)

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