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Offline forlorn

Re: What is Universal Peaceful Acceptance?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 08:16:05 AM »
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the man elected is instantly the true Pope, and he acquires and can exercise full and absolute jurisdiction over the whole world.

This quote taken as you read it, Stubborn, would be entirely redundant. The man who's elected pope is pope - duh! It doesn't address the issue of whether or not the election was actually valid. So it's an entirely pointless statement if you interpret it as some test to tell if the man claiming to be pope actually is.

The quote is actually about when the pope gets his authority - it's a correction of people who believed the pope only gains his authority upon coronation rather than election.
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: What is Universal Peaceful Acceptance?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 08:57:58 AM »
Quote from: forlorn on October 11, 2019, 08:16:05 AM
This quote taken as you read it, Stubborn, would be entirely redundant. The man who's elected pope is pope - duh! It doesn't address the issue of whether or not the election was actually valid. So it's an entirely pointless statement if you interpret it as some test to tell if the man claiming to be pope actually is.

The quote is actually about when the pope gets his authority - it's a correction of people who believed the pope only gains his authority upon coronation rather than election.
No, it is about the election, just exactly as it says. It's about the coronation? Seriously? He gets his authority when he accepts the election, which is before his coronation.

Being as how we don't even know what goes on behind closed doors, we certainly don't know what went on or goes on in the conclave, the presumption is that they adhered to the legislation therefore the election is valid, unless you can prove otherwise - which you can't do. Because you can't prove otherwise, "the man elected in instantly the true pope", as Pope St. Pius X said.
 
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: What is Universal Peaceful Acceptance?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2019, 09:41:53 AM »
I did forget, but I understand that some posters here, like Stubborn, do not accept the universal peaceful acceptance criteria at all.  That’s fine and maybe they’re right.  But I was asking particularly because of a discussion between two people who did accept it, but interpreted it differently
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Offline forlorn

Re: What is Universal Peaceful Acceptance?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2019, 10:24:39 AM »
Quote from: Stubborn on October 11, 2019, 08:57:58 AM
No, it is about the election, just exactly as it says. It's about the coronation? Seriously? He gets his authority when he accepts the election, which is before his coronation.

Being as how we don't even know what goes on behind closed doors, we certainly don't know what went on or goes on in the conclave, the presumption is that they adhered to the legislation therefore the election is valid, unless you can prove otherwise - which you can't do. Because you can't prove otherwise, "the man elected in instantly the true pope", as Pope St. Pius X said.
 
Thank you for repeating my own words back to me???
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: What is Universal Peaceful Acceptance?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2019, 10:43:40 AM »
Quote from: forlorn on October 11, 2019, 10:24:39 AM
Thank you for repeating my own words back to me???
You will *never* solve your problem.
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