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Author Topic: What is the source of sedevacantist bishops' jurisdiction?  (Read 10499 times)

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Offline Geremia

Re: What is the source of sedevacantist bishops' jurisdiction?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2018, 11:06:37 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 05, 2018, 02:57:03 PM
All traditional catholic priests/bishops are protected (and ordered) by canon law to provide the sacraments to the faithful.
Supplied jurisdiction allows bishops to consecrate new bishops?
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Offline Geremia

Re: What is the source of sedevacantist bishops' jurisdiction?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2018, 11:07:00 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on July 05, 2018, 10:19:52 PM
Why is this limited to sedevacantist bishops?  R&R bishops also lack ordinary non-supplied jurisdiction.
Can a bishop validly consecrate new bishops during an interregnum?

from Miaskiewicz's 1940 Supplied Jurisdiction According to Canon 209:
Quote from: p. 12
Certainly jurisdictional power, as has been seen, is distinctly separate from the powers of Orders and therefore the power of jurisdiction does not include the faculty to bless, to consecrate, to say Mass, to anoint, or to perform some other sacred function.
So, it seems supplied jurisdiction is not needed because the power to consecrate is one of the powers of Orders.
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Offline JohnAnthonyMarie

Re: What is the source of sedevacantist bishops' jurisdiction?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2018, 12:37:53 PM »
I am only aware of two instances where individuals were given the authority to consecrate bishops without papal mandate - Monseigneur Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc, titular bishop of Saigon ( 15 March, 1938 ) and Monseigneur Michel d'Herbigny, S.J., titular bishop of Trcie ( 10 March, 1926 ).
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Offline JPaul

Re: What is the source of sedevacantist bishops' jurisdiction?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2018, 08:09:01 PM »
Quote from: Geremia on July 05, 2018, 11:06:37 PM
Supplied jurisdiction allows bishops to consecrate new bishops?
Not by their own will or whim. The need must be perceived as imperative, otherwise you would have Bishops creating their own personal hierarchies. It is alway a question when you act outside of the Church's law and regulations.
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Offline poche

Re: What is the source of sedevacantist bishops' jurisdiction?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2018, 02:23:05 AM »
Quote from: Geremia on July 05, 2018, 11:07:00 PM
Can a bishop validly consecrate new bishops during an interregnum?

from Miaskiewicz's 1940 Supplied Jurisdiction According to Canon 209:So, it seems supplied jurisdiction is not needed because the power to consecrate is one of the powers of Orders.
From the Code of Canon Law;
1382 A bishop who consecrates some one a bishop without a pontifical mandate and the person who receives the consecration from him incur a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P54.HTM
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