I always thought the SSPX kept a traditional veneer about them but what in the world are they doing here?  Since when do we glorify the Lord with modern "art"?

http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/hideous-sspx-church-madrid.htm

Dedication scheduled for July 25

House of Horrors:
Hideous New SSPX Church in Madrid
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In Madrid, the capital of Spain, the Society of St. Pius X spent the last few years building a new church. The building has now been completed, and the solemn dedication ceremony is scheduled for this coming Monday, July 25, which coincides with the parish’s titular feast, for the church is dedicated to St. James the Greater, Apostle.

Normally, none of this would be news, for the SSPX builds new parish churches around the globe all the time. The case of St. James the Apostle Church in Madrid, however, is different, because the exterior of the now-completed building is so hideous that it might as well be a Novus Ordo church. One may also easily mistake it for an office building, a library, or worse.

Here are a few sample pictures of this monstrosity (click each photo to enlarge). Make no mistake about it, this church is no longer under construction — it’s done!


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The outer facade facing the main road
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Another view of the same
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The SSPX logo is plastered all over the outer wall
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These interesting windows face a side street
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A wider view
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A view from the corner


You can check this out for yourself. Simply go to Google Maps and use Street View for the following address: Calle de Catalina Suárez, 16, 28007 Madrid, Spain.

By the way, did you notice the odd-looking statue at the top of the building? Here is a close-up:
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What is this? The Grim Reaper? Actually, it is supposed to be the Blessed Virgin Mary, to whom the SSPX claims to be especially devoted. Here is a closer view still:
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No eyes, no mouth, and just a hideous overall appearance. How much this must have cost? Or perhaps it was a gift from the local Masonic Lodge?

Lots more photos of the church, both during and after construction, can be found at the following links:

    The Frightening New Church of the SSPX in Spain
    Obras de la Capilla Santiago Apóstol, semana tras semanas
    La Neo-FSSPX invita a la Bendición de la Capilla esperpéntica de Madrid
    Capilla de arquitectura moderna para la FSSPX
    La Horrorosa Neo Iglesia de la Neo FSSPX en España
    Polemica arquitectura modernista de la Capilla de la FSSPX en Madrid España


Bp. Alfonso de Galarreta is the District Superior for Spain and Portugal and will presumably be the celebrant for the dedication on July 25. No doubt we will get plenty more photos in a few days.

Not much commentary is needed here. It seems that in Madrid the Lefebvrians are trying to out-Novus-Ordo the Novus Ordo, at least as far as exterior church architecture goes. No doubt, with this new Capilla de Santiago Apóstol — Chapel of St. James the Apostle — the SSPX will be yet another step closer to being fully accepted by Modernist Rome. At this point, the writing is, even quite literally, on the wall.

I said this before and I will say it again, when I first heard about SSPX shortly after I came to CMRI, I was told by so many that SSPX would eventually take their laity back into Vatican II through the back door, and that is what I see.  

I'm afraid this is true.  Satan tries to get people through various organizations and apostates who are more awake to reality than the NO's.  He does this through SBS, the Dimonds and the R & R's.  I would not be the least surprised if there are plants within the SV to undermine the position as well through their words and actions.  

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I said this before and I will say it again, when I first heard about SSPX shortly after I came to CMRI, I was told by so many that SSPX would eventually take their laity back into Vatican II through the back door, and that is what I see.  

I'm afraid this is true.  Satan tries to get people through various organizations and apostates who are more awake to reality than the NO's.  He does this through SBS, the Dimonds and the R & R's.  I would not be the least surprised if there are plants within the SV to undermine the position as well through their words and actions.  

How do the Dimonds do this? Proof?

They teach without formation, authority, or oversight.

So the Dimonds are tools of satan. And what about R&R? Are you really saying that the SSPX is a tool of satan to deceive? The resistance is R&R also. So the resistance is a tool of satan to deceive? What are you doing here? If you think the R&R traditional groups are tools of satan to deceive what are you doing here? This is officially an R&R forum. Why don't you go and haunt a sedevacantist forum with your slanders of those R&R supporters?

I am sorry LOT, but I was very upset with you when I made this post. I do not like it when you insult the R&R position and those who hold it. That is why I don't like it when you post Novus Ordo Watch articles that say that only sedevacantists are real Catholics and that is why I got upset just a few minutes ago when you basically said that R&R people are tools of satan deceiving people and keeping them from the true faith. And I am not even R&R (I am not sedevacantist either. I am in between because I don't know which position is right). But I get upset when you or the articles you post say so many people who I love and see as good Catholics trying to do the will of God are not real Catholics. And I get upset when you say that those R&R supporters are not really honest Catholics trying to do the will of God but are really tools of satan deceiving people so they do not come to the truth. If you really believe that all non-sedevacantists are not really Catholics and that they are tools of satan deceiving others to keep them from the truth, you do not belong here.

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I said this before and I will say it again, when I first heard about SSPX shortly after I came to CMRI, I was told by so many that SSPX would eventually take their laity back into Vatican II through the back door, and that is what I see.  

I'm afraid this is true.  Satan tries to get people through various organizations and apostates who are more awake to reality than the NO's.  He does this through SBS, the Dimonds and the R & R's.  I would not be the least surprised if there are plants within the SV to undermine the position as well through their words and actions.  

How do the Dimonds do this? Proof?

They teach without formation, authority, or oversight.

They offer easy access to Dogmas by citing them continuously. They show how things are heretical which are contrary to those Dogmas.
The teaching has already been done by the Church. They don't claim to be the Authority or the origination of said Dogmas. Also, the only formation one needs to understand the plain meaning of a Dogma, is to understand words.

They supplement Church teaching with their own misguided conjecture.

Provide an example dealing with Dogma.

From the article "Outside The Church There Is No Salvation And Refuting Baptism Of Desire"

Bro. Peter Dimond

SESS. 6, CHAP. 4 OF THE COUNCIL OF TRENT

OBJECTION– In Session 6, Chapter 4 of its Decree on Justification, the Council of Trent teaches that justification can take place through the water of baptism or the desire for it.

ANSWER– No, it doesn’t.  It actually teaches that justification cannot take place without water baptism or the desire for it, as it is written: unless a man is born again of water and the Spirit he cannot be saved.  That’s quite different.

As I recall, the paperdoll monk teaches with regard to the word "or" in a sense contrary to Canon Law.

I was not talking about the specifics of BoD here, but merely providing the requested example of illicit activity.  I would prefer that the poisonous opinions of pretend monks remain quarantined in the appropriate subsection.

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I said this before and I will say it again, when I first heard about SSPX shortly after I came to CMRI, I was told by so many that SSPX would eventually take their laity back into Vatican II through the back door, and that is what I see.  

I'm afraid this is true.  Satan tries to get people through various organizations and apostates who are more awake to reality than the NO's.  He does this through SBS, the Dimonds and the R & R's.  I would not be the least surprised if there are plants within the SV to undermine the position as well through their words and actions.  

So the Dimonds are tools of satan. And what about R&R? Are you really saying that the SSPX is a tool of satan to deceive? The resistance is R&R also. So the resistance is a tool of satan to deceive? What are you doing here? If you think the R&R traditional groups are tools of satan to deceive what are you doing here? This is officially an R&R forum. Why don't you go and haunt a sedevacantist forum with your slanders of those R&R supporters?

I'm willing to grant any legitimate point you have.  Please show me from any weighty work, pre-V2 catechism or theologian or better where a public heretic can be Pope.  

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the R & R's.  

Father Shell supported the SSPX, and Bishop Williamson provided the Sacrament of Confirmation for him.  I had the great honor of hearing a Confirmation sermon from Bishop Williamson that I consider one of the most inspiration of my life.  I personally observe a condition of sede vacante that has befallen the Catholic Church, at the same time I support the R&R position that (to my understanding) is associated with Bishop Williamson.

There is no doubt that some holy people can be R & R.  Many put SVs to shame in regards to personal sanctify probably, just a guess, I don't know, but I'm willing to grant it as I know it is possible.  Many R & R's will be saved.  SV is not officially bound on anyone.  

All that being said, it if we can stick to the brass tacks here, as the bald truth should be all that interests us.

1.  Is it Catholic to refuse submission to a valid Pope

2.  Is it Catholic to accept a non-Catholic/public heretic as a valid Pope

I can certainly tolerate other people disagreeing, but their disagreement has to be based on Catholic teaching - they have to argue WHY the position that one must submit to the Pope and that a public heretic cannot be Pope wrong, and not simply say, "Oh man, that is so radical, so mean, you narrow-minded!"