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Offline AGeorge

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Re: What Happened to Gerry Matatics?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2024, 12:45:40 PM »
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  • When his wife died, I heard that he didn't seek Sacraments from a priest for her. Mentioned in this thread. I'd be glad to hear that information was wrong. 
    I can't say for certain on the sacramental issue, but I asked Fr. Kevin Robinson, who was pastor of our chapel at the time, to say a requiem for her repose at the chapel. There was a decent number of us in attendance, including friends of hers.. I do not believe she had a funeral, other than the family praying the rosary at the funeral home.

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    Re: What Happened to Gerry Matatics?
    « Reply #16 on: January 11, 2024, 01:54:58 PM »
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  • Here's a recent update on Gerry Matatics: he is currently living in Dunmore, PA (a town just outside of Scranton) and he is selling audio cds where he gives his "Matatics 101" talks. Basically, his summary of the Church Crisis is this:

    The concept of “epikeia” is being completely misused in all of these Traditional Catholic situations when attempting to prove the “liceity” of the sacraments and the “liceity” of ordained priests and consecrated bishops. The sede clergy (since they do not have “ordinary mission”) must claim “extraordinary mission” but in order to do so, they must perform actual signs of miracles [which is what Church Doctor St. Francis de Sales explains in Chapter 3 of his book The Catholic Controversy] and if they can’t do that then they have no mission at all. And since mission is a requirement of Divine Law and Ecclesiastical Law, all-known sede clergy should be avoided and all sede laypeople should stay at home instead of attending sede masses.

    He had a good debate with Jim Condit Jr. in Ohio 2 years ago and defended these positions. I have not purchased his "Matatics 101" cds and I doubt that I will do so.


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    Re: What Happened to Gerry Matatics?
    « Reply #17 on: January 11, 2024, 02:32:13 PM »
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  • The sede clergy (since they do not have “ordinary mission”) must claim “extraordinary mission” but in order to do so, they must perform actual signs of miracles [which is what Church Doctor St. Francis de Sales explains in Chapter 3 of his book The Catholic Controversy] and if they can’t do that then they have no mission at all.
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    Re: What Happened to Gerry Matatics?
    « Reply #18 on: January 11, 2024, 05:35:01 PM »
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  • Here's a recent update on Gerry Matatics: he is currently living in Dunmore, PA (a town just outside of Scranton) and he is selling audio cds where he gives his "Matatics 101" talks. Basically, his summary of the Church Crisis is this:

    The concept of “epikeia” is being completely misused in all of these Traditional Catholic situations when attempting to prove the “liceity” of the sacraments and the “liceity” of ordained priests and consecrated bishops. The sede clergy (since they do not have “ordinary mission”) must claim “extraordinary mission” but in order to do so, they must perform actual signs of miracles [which is what Church Doctor St. Francis de Sales explains in Chapter 3 of his book The Catholic Controversy] and if they can’t do that then they have no mission at all. And since mission is a requirement of Divine Law and Ecclesiastical Law, all-known sede clergy should be avoided and all sede laypeople should stay at home instead of attending sede masses.

    He had a good debate with Jim Condit Jr. in Ohio 2 years ago and defended these positions. I have not purchased his "Matatics 101" cds and I doubt that I will do so.
    Thanks Hank, that clearly explains his sorry situation.
    Talk about common sense out the window. He's getting tangled up in tricky legalistic terms and considerations without even understanding what man-made law is and why it exists - as St Thomas defines, laws are ordinances for the common good put in place by the one who has charge of the community. He goes on to explain that they only take into consideration what happens most often, and so if a situation arises where a law would be against the common good, it should not be followed. Hence, he says, 'in necessity there is no law'.
    The situation that St Francis de Sales was addressing with the Protestant innovators is the very opposite of what is happening in the Church now. The mission to continue the Church when almost the entire hierarchy has become infested with novelty, to say the very least, is more like the ordinary mission in extraordinary times, it is the mission that Christ entrusted to his apostles (Divine Law), nothing more than that. That is what every bishop had a duty to do faced with the universal apostasy.