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Offline BumphreyHogart

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Re: What good is Sedevacantism?
« Reply #195 on: April 09, 2017, 09:00:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on April 09, 2017, 08:53:03 PM
    Whatever happened to the rule of the Church that the faithful are not bound to withdrawn from communication with someone until the Church makes an official proclamation?
    Obviously that is not going to happen in the current status of things though...  So, we will keep praying...   :)

    You still don't get it?

    We are not bound by "Church law", which means one would immediately follow a command without understanding the circuмstances.

    This is not the case. MORALLY, we are bound to judge a danger, and, with conviction, stay away from the danger and warn others of that danger.

    Do you REALLY understand, and accept, that chapter of "Liberalism is a Sin"?
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    Re: What good is Sedevacantism?
    « Reply #196 on: April 09, 2017, 09:08:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: BumphreyHogart on April 09, 2017, 09:00:36 PM
    You still don't get it?

    We are not bound by "Church law", which means one would immediately follow a command without understanding the circuмstances.

    This is not the case. MORALLY, we are bound to judge a danger, and, with conviction, stay away from the danger and warn others of that danger.

    Do you REALLY understand, and accept, that chapter of "Liberalism is a Sin"?
    Lol...  We aren't bound by Church law?  :facepalm:  
    Then what is the point of having it in the first place? :o  
    I completely agree that everyone should stay away from Francis and the Concilliar claimants to the papacy.  I just don't agree that we have the authority to be the ones to actually denounce him.  That requires a higher authority of a pope or perhaps a Church Council like during the Western Schism...   :incense:

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    Re: What good is Sedevacantism?
    « Reply #197 on: April 09, 2017, 09:10:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on April 09, 2017, 09:08:01 PM
    Lol...  We aren't bound by Church law?  :facepalm: 
    Then what is the point of having it in the first place? :o 
    I completely agree that everyone should stay away from Francis and the Concilliar claimants to the papacy.  I just don't agree that we have the authority to be the ones to actually denounce him.  That requires a higher authority of a pope or perhaps a Church Council like during the Western Schism...   :incense:

    We are bound by Church law. My point is, without the law, we are bound by the moral law.

    You still, in effect, reject the chapter of "Liberalism is a Sin". Do you realize that? It says that "reason" is an authority.


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    Re: What good is Sedevacantism?
    « Reply #198 on: April 09, 2017, 09:17:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: BumphreyHogart on April 09, 2017, 09:10:18 PM
    We are bound by Church law. My point is, without the law, we are bound by the moral law.

    You still, in effect, reject the chapter of "Liberalism is a Sin". Do you realize that?

    I try to follow the Faith as best I can, if I am at fault I pray that God lead me back to the truth...
    As for the book "Liberalism is a Sin" the basic description and summary of the book is that it:
    "Refutes every aspect of the deadly error that one religion is as good as another and that a person has a moral right to choose whichever religion suits him best. Cuts through the foggy religious thinking rampant today!"

    What the book is writing about on is the subject of Ecuмenism, saying that there is nothing wrong with condemned religions.  The situation of traditional Catholicism is a bit different because the modern claimants to the papacy have never been officially condemned by the Church.  So, it is the duty of the faithful to separate themselves from those who seem to be in error until they are able to be judged properly by the proper authority.  That is the normal way things have been done in the Church, if I am not mistaken.
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    Re: What good is Sedevacantism?
    « Reply #199 on: April 09, 2017, 09:27:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on April 09, 2017, 09:17:42 PM
    I try to follow the Faith as best I can, if I am at fault I pray that God lead me back to the truth...
    As for the book "Liberalism is a Sin" the basic description and summary of the book is that it:
    "Refutes every aspect of the deadly error that one religion is as good as another and that a person has a moral right to choose whichever religion suits him best. Cuts through the foggy religious thinking rampant today!"

    What the book is writing about on is the subject of Ecuмenism, saying that there is nothing wrong with condemned religions.  The situation of traditional Catholicism is a bit different because the modern claimants to the papacy have never been officially condemned by the Church.  So, it is the duty of the faithful to separate themselves from those who seem to be in error until they are able to be judged properly by the proper authority.  That is the normal way things have been done in the Church, if I am not mistaken.


    "So, it is the duty of the faithful to separate themselves from those who seem to be in error until they are able to be judged properly by the proper authority."

    This is correct, but you appear at times to speak against it. Yes, it is the duty of you and me "to separate ourselves from those who seem to be in error" until higher authority decides otherwise. But in the meantime, we judge and speak with conviction about the danger as being the truth.


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