Author Topic: What does the future hold for the Church? (Read 1597 times)

Arborman · « **on:** August 18, 2010, 10:02:23 PM »

What do you think the Church of the future will look like? Are we headed for schism along traditionalist-liberal lines? Will the SSPX join the church, or will things disintegrate so much traditional catholic groups will flourish?

Looking at the diocese I live in, only 1 priest was ordained last year. Half the priests are over 70, some over 80. The 2 priests I admire the most are 74 and 82. I recently attended a NO funeral for a friend of the family who died tragically. My wife and I were horrified by what we saw. We were so shocked I had us just sit and not participate and certainly did not receive communion. I asked around later what people thought of the Mass and they were "very happy" with it. I can only conclude they are practicing a different religion than I am.

The local Bishop is getting ready to close a bunch of churches, they have been counting numbers attending all the Masses. I see a future with no priests, lay people doing the readings and maybe even the homilies, and also distributing communion.

What do you think?

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #1 on:** August 18, 2010, 10:08:43 PM »

The 'Church', according to this understanding and picture, is toast -- no question. Such has been the case for 50 years, give or take.

I think whatever comes will blow everyone's minds, regardless of their present understanding. We will ALL be surprised, one way or another (IMO).

She will be restored and, in some ways, more beautiful than ever. So has it been foretold.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #2 on:** August 18, 2010, 10:20:27 PM »

Quote from: Arborman

What do you think the Church of the future will look like? Are we headed for schism along traditionalist-liberal lines? Will the SSPX join the church, or will things disintegrate so much traditional catholic groups will flourish?

Looking at the diocese I live in, only 1 priest was ordained last year. Half the priests are over 70, some over 80. The 2 priests I admire the most are 74 and 82. I recently attended a NO funeral for a friend of the family who died tragically. My wife and I were horrified by what we saw. We were so shocked I had us just sit and not participate and certainly did not receive communion. I asked around later what people thought of the Mass and they were "very happy" with it. I can only conclude they are practicing a different religion than I am.

The local Bishop is getting ready to close a bunch of churches, they have been counting numbers attending all the Masses. I see a future with no priests, lay people doing the readings and maybe even the homilies, and also distributing communion.

What do you think?

Traditional Catholic groups are the ones having all the babies, if that means anything. :baby:

What you described is just another religion that left the Catholic church, just like the Protestants did, and so on and so on. "They have our buildings, but we (Traditionalists) have the Faith" . . . who said that? This is a quiz!

Arborman · « **Reply #3 on:** August 18, 2010, 10:30:41 PM »

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Quote from: Arborman
What do you think the Church of the future will look like? Are we headed for schism along traditionalist-liberal lines? Will the SSPX join the church, or will things disintegrate so much traditional catholic groups will flourish?

Looking at the diocese I live in, only 1 priest was ordained last year. Half the priests are over 70, some over 80. The 2 priests I admire the most are 74 and 82. I recently attended a NO funeral for a friend of the family who died tragically. My wife and I were horrified by what we saw. We were so shocked I had us just sit and not participate and certainly did not receive communion. I asked around later what people thought of the Mass and they were "very happy" with it. I can only conclude they are practicing a different religion than I am.

The local Bishop is getting ready to close a bunch of churches, they have been counting numbers attending all the Masses. I see a future with no priests, lay people doing the readings and maybe even the homilies, and also distributing communion.

What do you think?

Traditional Catholic groups are the ones having all the babies, if that means anything. :baby:

What you described is just another religion that left the Catholic church, just like the Protestants did, and so on and so on. "They have our buildings, but we (Traditionalists) have the Faith" . . . who said that? This is a quiz!

St Athanasius

MyrnaM · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2010, 07:54:18 AM »

Yes, Arborman, you got it! :dancing-banana:

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2010, 09:26:41 AM »

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I can only conclude they are practicing a different religion than I am.

Indeed!

They are practicing a religion that is not the Catholic religion. Ultimately that religion is doomed to total collapse. The unknown aspect is when.

Wessex · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:11:44 AM »

Prediction time:

Rome will eventually concede on contraception and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ issues with abortion being swept under the carpet. She will preside over a loose federation of autonimous national entitities which will end up being nothing more than a series of spiritual centres, gαy clubs, cultural appreciation societies and humanist charities. Women will be given a place in any hierarchy to replace the defunct status of nun.

Elsewhere the Church will continue in exile among various disparate groups trying hard to identitfy an authentic Catholicism in an increasing hostile world. With memories of the old church fading, the best the Church on earth can hope for will be a revivalist continuation with endless disputes over valid popes, episcopal succession and correct liturgy. An existing minefield growing ever larger. Future generations may just prefer to preserve the basics of Christianity and join forces to this end without any sectarian baggage.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2010, 12:40:14 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

Prediction time:

Rome will eventually concede on contraception and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ issues with abortion being swept under the carpet. She will preside over a loose federation of autonimous national entitities which will end up being nothing more than a series of spiritual centres, gαy clubs, cultural appreciation societies and humanist charities. Women will be given a place in any hierarchy to replace the defunct status of nun.

Elsewhere the Church will continue in exile among various disparate groups trying hard to identitfy an authentic Catholicism in an increasing hostile world. With memories of the old church fading, the best the Church on earth can hope for will be a revivalist continuation with endless disputes over valid popes, episcopal succession and correct liturgy. An existing minefield growing ever larger. Future generations may just prefer to preserve the basics of Christianity and join forces to this end without any sectarian baggage.

yes, Wessex. the modern catholics will join the one World religion which is part of the NWO. True Catholics (forget your groups) will be singled out as terrorists if they dont sign a pledge of allegiance to the NWO. Those who really love their faith will be put in camps and then who knows what will happen?
The prophecies say that the true Catholics will be on the verge of elimination, but a stroke from Heaven will save them.

The confusion in the church between traditional Catholics has been orchestrated by the same forces that set up the NWO (Satan being the author of it all)

Emerentiana · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2010, 12:44:01 PM »

BTW,
When the NWO is established, true Catholics will have to go underground as they did in Russia, with occasional masses in homes, barns, the woods, etc. We will not have the right to have public masses.

Maybe then, all Trad groups will recognize EACH other as Catholics , and interact with each other with love and trust!

Our Lord said "The time is coming when those who worship me will worship me in spirit and in truth!

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2010, 01:31:22 PM »

I do not know what this afternoon holds for me, so I cannot expect to know what the future holds for the Church, the world, my pet goldfish, etc.

That said, God has made many revelations to His friends about this period. Yves Dupont collected many of them, providing a decent snapshot of what lies ahead.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2010, 01:32:48 PM »

Well whatever will happen, I think it will happen soon, because it almost seems God is unjust, when innocent babies are being born into this world, growing up, and do not have a clue as to where the truth is, nor their purpose in life, now where they are going.

I know that God is NOT unjust, which is why, I believe He will end this confusion soon, one generation of a Church in TOTAL eclipse is bad enough. "And unless the Lord had shortened the days, no living creature would be saved. But for the sake of the elect whom He has chosen, He has shortened the days."

Even during times of persecution, Catholics knew the Church was existing somewhere, but today, so many people have no knowledge, even with the internet, so many have no clue.

Belloc · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2010, 01:46:45 PM »

Quote from: Arborman

What do you think the Church of the future will look like? Are we headed for schism along traditionalist-liberal lines? Will the SSPX join the church, or will things disintegrate so much traditional catholic groups will flourish?

Looking at the diocese I live in, only 1 priest was ordained last year. Half the priests are over 70, some over 80. The 2 priests I admire the most are 74 and 82. I recently attended a NO funeral for a friend of the family who died tragically. My wife and I were horrified by what we saw. We were so shocked I had us just sit and not participate and certainly did not receive communion. I asked around later what people thought of the Mass and they were "very happy" with it. I can only conclude they are practicing a different religion than I am.

The local Bishop is getting ready to close a bunch of churches, they have been counting numbers attending all the Masses. I see a future with no priests, lay people doing the readings and maybe even the homilies, and also distributing communion.

What do you think?

the modernists either went into schism, if you will, already, with some straddling both camps....we will undergo a Chastisement and before and after, be reduced to a handful of the faithful and true....

Belloc · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2010, 01:47:54 PM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Quote from: Arborman

I can only conclude they are practicing a different religion than I am.

Indeed!

They are practicing a religion that is not the Catholic religion. Ultimately that religion is doomed to total collapse. The unknown aspect is when.

true, the NO,e al encourages and transforms no one in any substance.....SSPX seminaries are full, NO empty and closing...hmm...

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2010, 01:51:04 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

Quote from: Wessex
Prediction time:

Rome will eventually concede on contraception and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ issues with abortion being swept under the carpet. She will preside over a loose federation of autonimous national entitities which will end up being nothing more than a series of spiritual centres, gαy clubs, cultural appreciation societies and humanist charities. Women will be given a place in any hierarchy to replace the defunct status of nun.

Elsewhere the Church will continue in exile among various disparate groups trying hard to identitfy an authentic Catholicism in an increasing hostile world. With memories of the old church fading, the best the Church on earth can hope for will be a revivalist continuation with endless disputes over valid popes, episcopal succession and correct liturgy. An existing minefield growing ever larger. Future generations may just prefer to preserve the basics of Christianity and join forces to this end without any sectarian baggage.

yes, Wessex. the modern catholics will join the one World religion which is part of the NWO. True Catholics (forget your groups) will be singled out as terrorists if they dont sign a pledge of allegiance to the NWO. Those who really love their faith will be put in camps and then who knows what will happen?
The prophecies say that the true Catholics will be on the verge of elimination, but a stroke from Heaven will save them.

The confusion in the church between traditional Catholics has been orchestrated by the same forces that set up the NWO (Satan being the author of it all)

"Alas! this organization which formerly afforded such promising expectations, this limpid and impetuous stream, has been harnessed in its course by the modern enemies of the Church, and is now no more than a miserable affluent of the great movement of apostasy being organized in every country for the establishment of a One-World Church which shall have neither dogmas, nor hierarchy, neither discipline for the mind, nor curb for the passions, and which, under the pretext of freedom and human dignity, would bring back to the world (if such a Church could overcome) the reign of legalized cunning and force, and the oppression of the weak, and of all those who toil and suffer. "
-P10, Our Apostolic Mandate

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2010, 07:35:52 PM »

The three days of darkness will come and will wipe away the modernism and the Novus Ordo. The Traditional Latin Mass will be restored, Archbishop LeFebvre will be canonized, and all will be well until the Anti-Christ comes.