Author Topic: What do you think about Fr. Cekada? (Read 2311 times)

Kephapaulos · « **on:** January 06, 2017, 01:25:22 AM »

What do you think about Fr. Cekada?

Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** January 06, 2017, 11:42:37 AM »

Quote from: Kephapaulos

What do you think about Fr. Cekada?

I don't agree with his position on the Terri Sciavo affair. But I do not know as much about him as many other posters here. I just remember that I heard he may be dying of cancer. I will pray for him today.

Matthew · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2017, 12:49:05 PM »

1. He was quite smug about how he helped grab lots of buildings from the SSPX (back when they were good)

2. He is quite self-serving with his original creation, the "non Una cuм" position. Before he came along, virtually ALL sedevacantists were comfortable attending a Tridentine Mass of a non-sedevacantist priest (independent, SSPX, etc.) Fr. Cekada elevated sedevacantism to a dogma, saying that if you can't find a sedevacantist priest, you must stay home alone. This is seriously evil, and has done countless harm to traditional Catholic souls.

What started out as a way to eliminate the competition there in Cincinnati, OH, has spread as a cancer of Home-Aloneism throughout the United States. When a middle aged woman in Texas reads his articles or watches his videos and is won over to his position, she can't exactly go to Fr. Cekada's Mass in Ohio. So she ends up becoming a home aloner. See the problem?

In other words, Fr. Cekada is probably in the "top 5 priests" in the list of Traditional Figures Who Have Created Accretions or Complexity (read: chaos and division!) In The Traditional Movement.

3. Fr. Cekada severely disappoints me in the category of humility vs. pride. Let's put it this way: If I know 25 priests, then I know 24 priests more humble than Fr. Cekada.

Stubborn · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2017, 01:31:15 PM »

^^^^ This.

There are many trads who've gone sede on his teachings. He has convinced a lot of trads that sedevacantism is a teaching of the Church, hence many are absolutely and irrevocably convinced that deciding the status of the pope is a doctrine of the Church rather than a doctrine of man, which is what sedevacantism actually is.

He has some good material for this crisis but it's not worth sifting through or falling for some of the errors he preaches.

Cantarella · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2017, 01:36:43 PM »

I think he is wrong regarding Fr. Feeney and the EENS dogma.

TKGS · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2017, 02:11:12 PM »

He has more positives than negatives. I would trust his opinion on any theological matter about which I know nothing before I would trust any of the internet amateur lay-theologians that are about.

Cera · « **Reply #6 on:** January 06, 2017, 02:13:24 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Kephapaulos
What do you think about Fr. Cekada?

I don't agree with his position on the Terri Sciavo affair. But I do not know as much about him as many other posters here. I just remember that I heard he may be dying of cancer. I will pray for him today.

Can you explain his position on the public murder of Terri Shivo?

Matto · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2017, 02:18:26 PM »

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you explain his position on the public murder of Terri Shivo?

He did not think it was murder. He approved of letting her die. If you do a google search for "Schiavo" and Cekada, you can find out about it.

Stubborn · « **Reply #8 on:** January 06, 2017, 02:21:23 PM »

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He has more positives than negatives. I would trust his opinion on any theological matter about which I know nothing before I would trust any of the internet amateur lay-theologians that are about.

Yes, I agree, but that depends on the subject matter. As regards the doctrines having to do with the pope and magisterium, no, he is wrong and I would not listen to anything he has to say. An old poster, 2Vermont cited Fr. Cekada once or twice as a having been a big influence in her decision to go sede, basically right out of the NO. I sometimes wonder if she has ever found the church she lost in that process.

As regards some of the sacraments and the EENS dogma, no, he is also as wrong as the NOers who share his same opinions.

TKGS · « **Reply #9 on:** January 06, 2017, 03:36:50 PM »

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He has more positives than negatives. I would trust his opinion on any theological matter about which I know nothing before I would trust any of the internet amateur lay-theologians that are about.

Yes, I agree, but that depends on the subject matter. As regards the doctrines having to do with the pope and magisterium, no, he is wrong and I would not listen to anything he has to say. An old poster, 2Vermont cited Fr. Cekada once or twice as a having been a big influence in her decision to go sede, basically right out of the NO. I sometimes wonder if she has ever found the church she lost in that process.

As regards some of the sacraments and the EENS dogma, no, he is also as wrong as the NOers who share his same opinions.

Of course it depends upon the subject matter. That is what I said. But on the matters of the pope and the magisterium, at least, the sedevacantist position is logical and consistent. It doesn't require everybody to act as their own "super-pope" who overrules the guy they give lip service to whenever he teaches something they don't agree with.

Stubborn · « **Reply #10 on:** January 06, 2017, 04:31:37 PM »

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Quote from: TKGS
He has more positives than negatives. I would trust his opinion on any theological matter about which I know nothing before I would trust any of the internet amateur lay-theologians that are about.

Yes, I agree, but that depends on the subject matter. As regards the doctrines having to do with the pope and magisterium, no, he is wrong and I would not listen to anything he has to say. An old poster, 2Vermont cited Fr. Cekada once or twice as a having been a big influence in her decision to go sede, basically right out of the NO. I sometimes wonder if she has ever found the church she lost in that process.

As regards some of the sacraments and the EENS dogma, no, he is also as wrong as the NOers who share his same opinions.

Of course it depends upon the subject matter. That is what I said. But on the matters of the pope and the magisterium, at least, the sedevacantist position is logical and consistent. It doesn't require everybody to act as their own "super-pope" who overrules the guy they give lip service to whenever he teaches something they don't agree with.

I can't remember "the guy" ever teaching anything I agreed with, but I can say a lot of things he said that are certainly wrong - are we to agree with "the guy" when he is certainly wrong? No, of course we are not.

Since the founding of the Church till the end of time, we are bound to be the pope's good subject, but God's first - it is not at all complicated, yet this truth is likely thought to be a heresy to Fr. Cekada, sedevacantist.

Do a google search on sedevacantist priest, and because sedevacantism is his claim to fame, is how he is known, this is the first item that shows up:

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #11 on:** January 06, 2017, 04:34:44 PM »

He is repulsively smug.

After calling him Fr. Cicada, after a local insect, the people on Suscipe Domine berated me for daring to ridicule a priest and not giving clergy their due. I've since apologized to him and all priests for speaking ill of them.

May we regard all priests with respect, including His Holiness, Pope Francis--may he lead the Church into an era of goodness and light!

As the moderators over there said to another Fr. Cekada critic: Regardless of your feelings with respect to Fr Cekada, he is still a Catholic priest and deserves some level of respect.

And as St. Catherine of Sienna said:

"But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, but for the sake of God, and out of obedience to Him."

:smile:

"Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom."

God bless our priests!

TKGS · « **Reply #12 on:** January 06, 2017, 04:53:40 PM »

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

He is repulsively smug.

After calling him Fr. Cicada, after a local insect, the people on Suscipe Domine berated me for daring to ridicule a priest and not giving clergy their due. I've since apologized to him and all priests for speaking ill of them.

May we regard all priests with respect, including His Holiness, Pope Francis--may he lead the Church into an era of goodness and light!

Since Bergoglio is not a priest, he deserves absolutely no respect. But I wonder if you would have said the same thing about Martin Luther. He was, after all, a true priest.

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

May we regard all priests with respect, including the heresiarch, Martin Luther--may he lead the Church into an era of goodness and light!

No. I didn't think so.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #13 on:** January 06, 2017, 05:22:35 PM »

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Quote from: LaramieHirsch
He is repulsively smug.

After calling him Fr. Cicada, after a local insect, the people on Suscipe Domine berated me for daring to ridicule a priest and not giving clergy their due. I've since apologized to him and all priests for speaking ill of them.

May we regard all priests with respect, including His Holiness, Pope Francis--may he lead the Church into an era of goodness and light!

Since Bergoglio is not a priest, he deserves absolutely no respect. But I wonder if you would have said the same thing about Martin Luther. He was, after all, a true priest.

Quote from: LaramieHirsch
May we regard all priests with respect, including the heresiarch, Martin Luther--may he lead the Church into an era of goodness and light!

No. I didn't think so.

Ah! Re-livin' the hits! So nice that Pope Francis is going to celebrate Martin Luther, a valid priest of the Church.

songbird · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2017, 06:21:13 PM »

More negative than positive. Talk of showing himself to boys in a YMCA. And the Terri S. case

he had Bishop Sanborn join him and talk is, people left.

Too bad. Cultish as well. If I were in the area of SSG Ohio, I would not be a parishioner.