Author Topic: What do traditional Catholics think of Our Lady of Akita? (Read 7567 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2021, 02:17:36 PM »

I've looked into this apparition, and found it worthy of belief. Consonant with other approved Marian apparitions.

The only reason a bitter Trad would reject it -- Sister Sasagawa was in a Novus Ordo convent. Nevermind the fact the convent started receiving Communion on the tongue as a direct result of Sister Sasagawa and this apparition -- it bore GOOD FRUIT, as it were -- just saying -- but for some bitter Trads, anything less than fire and brimstone as punishment for attending the Novus Ordo is out of the question. No mercy, just hatred and justice.

For some bitter Trads, every single person who attends the Novus Ordo is malicious, of bad will, and in a state of Mortal sin.

In case you can't guess, I DO NOT consider myself among those bitter Trads.

Souls in the Novus Ordo, especially those of good will, have souls to save too. Jesus died for them as well, and He doesn't want to see them perish any more than the rest of humanity.

Some in the Novus Ordo have lost the Faith completely. They are there only for the heresy, and only *tolerate* the Catholic elements at best. Others are the complete reverse: they are there for the Catholic Faith, wanting to be part of the Church founded by Jesus Christ, and only *tolerate* the abuses, sentimentality, bad sermons, defects, etc. It would be completely foolishness to claim that these two groups are the same in God's eyes.

I think some Trads are so bitter and angry about being deceived (usually they spent time in the Novus Ordo themselves), that they hate the Novus Ordo and everyone in it.

Perhaps I should be grateful that I don't have such baggage -- and therefore I can take a more balanced, Catholic, and charitable position on the Novus Ordo/Conciliar Church.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2021, 03:06:31 PM »

I was lead into the Novus Ordo in 1960; I was twenty years old and bewildered as to why I heard something strange each week when I attended "Mass." One week we were all scolded for using our Missals; the priest actually said, "Do you think I am going to forget something, the way you follow along so closely."

We were also told not to be surprised if we would hear that Jesus Christ was not Divine. Those words came out of a visiting priest, and you should have seen the crowd that surrounded him after Mass.

I remember one Sunday. I noticed no one was genuflecting anymore at the tabernacle at the center of the altar. I looked up and said to myself, (where is the tabernacle?)

Like a good Catholic, I kept on going to "Mass" each Sunday; after Mass, I came home and complained to my non-Catholic husband. Needless to say, he is the one who found the Traditional Mass for me. Is it any wonder he died a Traditional Catholic years later?

No, I don't condemn the NO souls who attend, as I stated in my previous post earlier this morning. I do notice here; some bitter, hateful persons think nothing of condemning those who left the NO to embrace the sedevacantist position.

2Vermont · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2021, 03:23:28 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on February 24, 2021, 10:49:57 AM

With all due respect to His Excellency, he also believed that the visions of Dawn Marie were genuine ... as well as Garabandal. His Excellency seems to really be inclined to believe private revelation.

Yes. For some reason, some trads are drawn to these types of revelations...approved or not.

Tallinn Trad · « **Reply #48 on:** February 25, 2021, 04:49:13 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on February 24, 2021, 02:17:36 PM

I've looked into this apparition, and found it worthy of belief. Consonant with other approved Marian apparitions.

The only reason a bitter Trad would reject it -- Sister Sasagawa was in a Novus Ordo convent. Nevermind the fact the convent started receiving Communion on the tongue as a direct result of Sister Sasagawa and this apparition -- it bore GOOD FRUIT, as it were -- just saying -- but for some bitter Trads, anything less than fire and brimstone as punishment for attending the Novus Ordo is out of the question. No mercy, just hatred and justice.

For some bitter Trads, every single person who attends the Novus Ordo is malicious, of bad will, and in a state of Mortal sin.

There are plenty of Trad nuns. Why does Our Lady not appear to one of them?

That way we would know it was true.

I think it is perfectly reasonable to doubt that Our Lady would appear to a novus ordo nun, if the novus ordo is "a bastard rite" that deliberately weakens the faith of Catholics (we know with human certainty it does that).

In addition the statue that is claimed to have wept miraculously at Akita is that of Our Lady of All Nations which is objectively speaking wrong on many points. Here is one of those many points.
“THE LADY OF ALL NATIONS ARE THE LAST AND FINAL APPARITIONS OF OUR MOTHER TO THE NATIONS OF THIS WORLD.” (http://www.ladyofallnations.org)

To believe that these were "the last and final apparitions" of Mary to the world, one would have disbelieve the apparitions of Mary at Akita. Therefore, the claim that the apparitions to Ida Peerdeman are the last and final are false if Akita is true.

So Mary would either be making a statue of a false apparition weep miraculously, or, they are both false.

They cannot both be true.

Nadir · « **Reply #49 on:** February 25, 2021, 05:32:52 AM »

Quote from: Tallinn Trad on February 24, 2021, 08:22:11 AM

It strikes me as a bit random. Why have fire dropping from the sky? That is just going to kill people randomly without sparing the good ones. The survivors will be just as perverted, corrupt, stupid and godless as they were before. There will just be less people.

We have God’s promise that He will not again inundate the earth with water. After the flood there were just eight people. Life went on for those eight.

Presumably He will use fire.

Our Lady of Akita, Japan (1973) - The Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment graver than the Deluge, one such as has never been seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity.

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