Well, anything approved by the Novus Ordo church is suspect.

Well, anything approved by the Novus Ordo church is suspect.

Matthew, I agree that there are some good willed lay folk who actually still hold the Faith still stuck in the Novus Ordo, but I believe it is a very small percentage.  When discussing Novus Ordo hierarchy (who are the ones who approve these sorts of things), can you name even a few of them who have the Catholic Faith without a doubt (whole and entire)?

I'm not interested in making this a sede vs non-sede thread (although lately it always seems to be the non/anti-sedes who like to turn the discussion in that direction).

Yes, I think Our Lady of Akita is manifestly of supernatural origin. Bishop Williamson believes in Akita. So do I. The local Bishop in Japan approved it shortly after the original visions and Pope Benedict XVI confirmed it from Rome shortly thereafter. There are the signs of authenticity, just as with Our Lady of Fatima, the frequent calls to prayer and penance, to the daily Rosary, to co-redemptive suffering, miraculous healings, Our Lady's statue weeping blood, fulfilled prophecies etc etc etc. Our Lady of Akita also spoke of the work of the devil infiltrating into the Church and of good Priests being persecuted. She spoke of Bishop against Bishops and Cardinals against Cardinals such as we are now witnessing some 50 years later. Quite recently, shortly before the Pachamama abomination, after nearly 50 years of silence, Sr. Agnes gave a public message again, asking people to pray many Rosaries as the sins of the world were increasing greatly.

See: "Satan will enter the Church. Cardinals will oppose cardinals. Bishops will be against bishops. Those priests who revere me will be despised and attacked. Churches and alters will be desecrated. The church will be filled with those who accept compromise. Satan will lead many priests and religious away from God. He will concentrate especially on consecrated souls. The loss of so many souls causes me great distress. There will be no forgiveness if sins continue to increase. Don’t be afraid to tell your superior about this. He will know how to encourage you to pray and make reparation.” They were stern words."

http://wqphradio.org/2019/11/09/an-update-on-the-new-akita-message/

And: ""My daughter, my novice, do you love the Lord? If you love the Lord, listen to what I have to say to you."
"It is very important...You will convey it to your superior."
"Many men in this world afflict the Lord. I desire souls to console Him to soften the anger of the Heavenly Father. I wish, with my Son, for souls who will repair by their suffering and their poverty for the sinners and ingrates."
"In order that the world might know His anger, the Heavenly Father is preparing to inflict a great chastisement on all mankind. With my Son I have intervened so many times to appease the wrath of the Father. I have prevented the coming of calamities by offering Him the sufferings of the Son on the Cross, His Precious Blood, and beloved souls who console Him forming a cohort of victim souls. Prayer, penance and courageous sacrifices can soften the Father's anger. I desire this also from your community...that it love poverty, that it sanctify itself and pray in reparation for the ingratitude and outrages of so many men."

From: https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/message-from-our-lady--akita-japan-5167

  She typifies what I said in the paragraph above.

Suspect, sure. But automatically disqualified because of such approval? No.

There are good willed, truth seekers in the State of Grace within the Novus Ordo today. Believe it because it's the truth.

I reject the heresy (held by some Sedes) that the Conciliar Church, the official Catholic Church visibly recognized in the world today, is basically the Church of Satan, with 100% of its members of bad will and going to Hell.

Not even close.

There are some in the Conciliar Church who *tolerate* the Faith/Truth, but they are really there for the abuses: the feminism, the easy-going morality, the laity and female-dominated Mass, social advantages, etc.

But there are others who only *tolerate* the abuses, but they are there for the truth, the Faith, and to please God and save their soul.

In short, there are some who have the Faith, some who are 10% of the way to losing it, some 50% of the way, some 75% of the way, and some who have completely lost it already, past-tense.