Author Topic: What a Catholic is not. (Read 2790 times)

crossbro · « **on:** July 28, 2014, 11:44:47 PM »

I have experience with RCIA that covers about 6 years including sponsoring two people into the Church.

Now it is God who calls us and not the other way around. There are many ways God may choose to call a person into His Church. A person might just feel compelled and drawn to the Church. Others study religion, many from an atheistic paradigm who just end up being drawn by God’s call. And yes there are those called into the Church by personal relationships. Friendships or marriage. God uses His people to call others into the Church.

But I have also seen another class of people whom I never felt should have gotten through the discernment phase. These are the social rejects. People who are insecure and socially dysfunctional. They join to basically hold other Church members as social hostages. They know it is the un-Christian thing to do to turn people away so they basically can unload all their negative and nasty attitudes on people, relentlessly. No one in any other social context would put up with it.

I do not believe Jesus would put up with it either.

Let me give you an example using an imaginary person:

Jack Flip is a conspiracy theorist and a racist. He is insecure so he cannot stand up to others in real life. No matter how hard he tries others seem to reject him. I mean he normally does not come out and claim that there is a Jew or illuminati world wide conspiracy or go around saying sambo this or sambo that. But for some reason people are uneasy around him and he does not understand why.

Jack Flip becomes interested in Catholicism. Mostly because it seems like a group of people who all believe in the same thing. He sees the happy families and camaraderie of the community and goes through RCIA, albeit a NO parish. He has a difficult time in RCIA but blabs anway because these people feel obligated to be nice. He has them over a barrel. He goes through the Sacraments on Easter. He goes to NO for a couple years and still feels rejected. In addition to that he does not like the few sambo families in the parish and resents them and the “burrito” families too. Actually he hates them because while he is rejected they seem to fit in and are accepted.

TLM becomes the next attraction. The NO Church that accepts all the sambos and burritos is just too liberal. He needs a cause that makes him feel part of something and important. So he joins the TLM. After awhile though, if he opens his big mouth he will be rejected there too.

You see, God created all people. Look around this world. God did not mean that everyone should look alike and it is blasphemy to hate or reject people just because of the color of their skin.

So, if you hold people in contempt just because of the color of their skin you are not a Catholic but a blasphemer. Hope that helps and hope you change if this is you.

OHCA · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2014, 01:05:13 AM »

You wouldn't know blasphemy if it bit you in the ass. What you are calling blasphemy is not blasphemy. But I agree that it is wrong & sinful to hate somebody just based on race.

However, it is prudent & NOT sinful for a person to want his children to marry within their own race; to avoid living in sambo/burrito ghettoes; to avoid things that give false signals to children regarding what is & is not appropriate in terms of interracial interaction.

You speak the language of zionism & modernism, and utilize the same tactics they use in trying to shove their view of race-mixing, feminism, fαɢɢօtry, etc., down the throats of sensible people. Why must one who doesn't like race-mixing, feminism, or fαɢɢօtry, necessarily be insecure? That's the standard line that leftists immediately assert regarding any of the above.

crossbro · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2014, 01:58:27 AM »

I would be embarrassed to post some of the racial comments I have seen in this forum. I would be ashamed of myself.

poche · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2014, 02:53:35 AM »

The word "Catholic" means universal. There are many flawed people in the Church. They even let me in.

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2014, 05:43:21 AM »

Quote from: crossbro

TLM becomes the next attraction. The NO Church that accepts all the sambos and burritos is just too liberal. He needs a cause that makes him feel part of something and important. So he joins the TLM.

So...are you saying that the "TLM" doesn't accept "sambos and burritos"? I wonder what the "sambos and burritos" that come to my chapel would say about that. It never occurred to us that they weren't supposed to be accepted.

In any event, you don't seem to understand that God actually does want "Jack Flip" to become Catholic. But He doesn't want Jack to simply go through the ceremony--and that is what RCIA essentially is: It's a punch card. A person has to go through RCIA, check all the required boxes including the "discernment stage", and then go through the ceremony. And, presto, he's a Catholic!

What God wants is conversion. In the Catholic Church, as opposed to the Conciliar sect, the priest will get to know the individual and he will not baptize him if he has not a conversion. He must truly believe, or at least put on a really good show, in the truths of the Catholic faith. But I don't think many people can put on that good a show because they have to learn the habits of living the faith.

Have I seen real racists at my chapel? I can't say that I have. Have I seen people at my chapel who recognize racial issues that today's popular culture would call "racist"? Most certainly. The real Jack Flips out there will be, I think, much more comfortable in a rural Novus Ordo parish, or better yet, a small Protestant community, than at a truly traditional Catholic Church.