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Offline SimpleMan

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  • Is there a website anywhere that lays out intelligently, and in some detail, what problems might exist with the much-ballyhooed Catechism of the Catholic Church?  More to the point, is there an online source that takes the CCC apart, and says "while the CCC says this, traditional Catholicism says that?".

    There is a certain stripe of "conservative Novus Ordo" Catholic for whom the CCC is "this one big de facto super-encyclical that teaches, with the ordinary infallibility of the magisterium, everything that we need to know" and for whom the CCC trumps everything that ever went before it.  It is like they have this "trinity" of the Novus Ordo Mass, the docuмents of Vatican II, and the CCC, and that is the sum total, the Alpha and the Omega of their faith.  (I guess we'd also have to throw the New American Bible and its offspring into the mix.)  In short, it's a religion that lives as though the Church began in ARSH 1962.

    Quite obviously, any sedevacantist is going to reject the CCC out of hand, as is anyone who rejects the Church as it has existed since Vatican II altogether.  So I have to wonder if they would judge any such critical analysis to be worth their time and effort.  But for those, such as the FSSP, ICKSP, or even the SSPX itself, has a critique of the CCC been any kind of priority at all?  Do they use it in any capacity whatsoever?   Or do they just let it lie fallow, not criticizing it, but not using it either?


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    Re: Website listing problems with the "Catechism of the Catholic Church"?
    « Reply #1 on: September 27, 2021, 06:23:12 AM »
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  • Maybe in practice, but I've heard the talking heads on EWTN describe the authority of the CCC as not having any of its own, but that the authority of each teaching in there derives from the original authority of when it was taught.


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    Re: Website listing problems with the "Catechism of the Catholic Church"?
    « Reply #2 on: September 27, 2021, 08:30:11 AM »
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  • Maybe in practice, but I've heard the talking heads on EWTN describe the authority of the CCC as not having any of its own, but that the authority of each teaching in there derives from the original authority of when it was taught.
    One would think so, but you have a certain stripe of what I call "Catholic holy rollers", who, when any matter of faith and morals comes up, their stock answer is "what does the Catechism say?" (which means the CCC).  These people, as I alluded to above, have their little "Catholic kit" of the CCC, the Novus Ordo, the docuмents of Vatican II, and a modern paraphrase of the Bible, and they base their entire religion upon that and only that.  You'd halfway expect someone to come up with a matching boxed set or something.  (I'd hope that TAN would never get such an idea.  Mr Nelson would spin in his grave!)

    Not sure how they handle it, when the CCC is silent on this matter or that.  They are of the mentality that, if you're not using the CCC, then you are not fully Catholic, and that all past catechisms are outdated historical relics that one shouldn't even be reading.  Pretty Orwellian if you ask me.  And then you have Francis, who, when the notion hits him, runs to update the Catechism, thereby making his new idea pretty much holy writ for such adherents.  They really need to make a loose-leaf edition. :facepalm:

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    Re: Website listing problems with the "Catechism of the Catholic Church"?
    « Reply #4 on: September 27, 2021, 07:34:16 PM »
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  • https://sspx.org/en/new-catechism-catholic
    Thank you so much.  This kind of analysis is precisely what I was looking for.