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Author Topic: We are in the Fourth great crisis in the Church - Bp. Athanasius Schneider  (Read 2570 times)

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Offline Neil Obstat

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    I see no reason why I need to use roman numerals. :thinking:


    Oh, okay, so long as no one knows what you mean, then you'll be happy in your little bubble-world, I guess.  Are Roman Numerals too challenging for you?  I'm sorry.   Really I am.   :guitar:

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    He needs to leave the conciliar church.


    And let all the fαɢɢօts and freemasons fill the void unchallenged?

    Sure. Lets say goodbye to the vatican and all the relics and churches, we dont want them anymore and wont bother fighting for them because were happy in our own little enclaves.

     :pop:

    The Bishop cannot undo the good he does with the right hand with his left.  He needs to take one side or the other and stop being lukewarm.


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    He says he has no regard for popularity, which might be true, the way he means it (which many would not understand), but then he doesn't seem to mind the "rock star welcome" that he gets along the way (which people don't seem to have any problem understanding).  

    It would be useful to look at some transcripts of his speeches, where we could quote directly the places that are problematic.  

    On the other hand, if he were too unflinching in his stand, he would have a hard time keeping friends and supporters who are totally into Newchurch.  Don't forget that ABL started the Society out that way.  He was able to acquire approval (albeit on a trial basis) from another Archbishop no doubt because he wasn't altogether too 'hard line' on certain things.  If he had been then what he later became once he realized the true face of the Modernists in Rome, then he couldn't have garnered any support IMHO.

    Therefore, Bishop Schneider could be keeping up his narrow margin of reputability without going too full-bore 'conservative' on everyone.

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    He said there needs to be a syllabus of errors drawn up to address vatican 2.


    All you'd have to do is to say:

    Condemned Propositions:
    [line by line verbatim from Vatican II]

    So does he think that V2 is being abused / misinterpreted or that there are substantial errors in Vatican II?

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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
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    He said there needs to be a syllabus of errors drawn up to address vatican 2.


    All you'd have to do is to say:

    Condemned Propositions:
    [line by line verbatim from Vatican II]

    So does he think that V2 is being abused / misinterpreted or that there are substantial errors in Vatican II?


    Given he said this,

    But Bishop Schneider says: “Thanks be to God, Pope Francis has not expressed himself in these ways that the mass media expect from him. He has spoken until now, in his official homilies, very beautiful Catholic doctrine. I hope he will continue to teach in a very clear manner the Catholic doctrine.”

    I'm not sure I'd trust his judgment or characterization of VII all that much.


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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    I see no reason why I need to use roman numerals. :thinking:


    Oh, okay, so long as no one knows what you mean, then you'll be happy in your little bubble-world, I guess.  Are Roman Numerals too challenging for you?  I'm sorry.   Really I am.   :guitar:

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    Soulgard is taking Neil's advice the wrong way.  

    Neil dropped a multi-million dollar idea in one of his posts in this thread when he referred to Vatican 2 as a video game.  Now all we need is some game designer to come up with a game where a pretender tries to enter a semiary for the sole purpose of working his way to the top and turning the place upside down.  A winner would become a priest.  A double winner would become a bishop.  A grand slam hall of famer would not only turn the church upside down and have it become something it once despised but that future generations would venerate the ugliness and despise the former beauty.  

    Nuttin tuff bout roman numerals, it's the romanburger from Mr. Hero's (a fast food joint in the Cleveland, OH area) that's hard to handle!   :wink:

    Offline Neil Obstat

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  • Quote from: 2Vermont
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    He said there needs to be a syllabus of errors drawn up to address [Vatican II.]


    All you'd have to do is to say:

    Condemned Propositions:
    [line by line verbatim from Vatican II]


    That wouldn't work because something like 20% of Vat.II is dogma of the Church, so you can't condemn that.  That 20% isn't the problem, but the fact that it's used as a smokescreen IS a problem.

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    So does he think that V2 is being abused / misinterpreted or that there are substantial errors in Vatican II?


    Given he said this,

    But Bishop Schneider says: “Thanks be to God, Pope Francis has not expressed himself in these ways that the mass media expect from him. He has spoken until now, in his official homilies, very beautiful Catholic doctrine. I hope he will continue to teach in a very clear manner the Catholic doctrine.”

    I'm not sure I'd trust his judgment or characterization of Vat.II all that much.


    Stay tuned for .......  Counterfeit Catholicism:  Masterminds of Vatican II

    Someone might be doing his work for him.

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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    ... soulgard is taking Neil's advice the wrong way ...



    And this is surprising??  

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