Author Topic: "I would never allow Pope Francis to Teach Religion to my Children (Read 1466 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #5 on:** December 02, 2013, 03:09:28 PM »

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The supposed Vicar of Christ, the man who has the power to bind and loose, who heads the Church whose mission is to teach, govern, and sanctify is not fit to teach religion to children?

No one can see that this is essentially an untenable position? It leads to making the papacy into nothing more than a figurehead. Bergoglio is like the queen of England.

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Thank you. This is my take on this sort of thinking. I have actually come to the same analogy with the English royalty. Those that say we MUST have a visible head sound more and more like they just want a guy in white who looks like Pope but in the end means absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter if the guy in white speaks and acts Catholic...as long as there is a guy that everyone can point to and say "there is the pope!". The problem is is the Church actually visible with a head that does not act and speak Catholic?

Luker · « **Reply #6 on:** December 02, 2013, 05:13:55 PM »

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:dancing-banana:Agreed. The Pope is like the Queen of England. She's still the Queen!

Indeed, how sad but appropriate. A cardboard pope to match our cardboard queen (I'm Canadian)

So does this mean we only have to listen to our queen when she speaks 'ex cathedra' ??

The queen's position is not conditional on her being a baptized Catholic who isn't an heretic or a schismatic.

The queens position is dependant though on her confessing the Anglican religion. My reference to ex cathedra (in quotes) was more of dig on Dei Gratias Regina which is on all commonwealth money. It shows her supposed god given right to rule not just as monarch, but head of the Church of England. If you ever get a hold of piece of Canadian change, you will see it on there. But the whole thing is silly. The British monarchy hasn't ruled anything since the days of the inGlorious Revolution. The London usurers and their parliament lackies are in charge.

Luke

Frances · « **Reply #7 on:** December 02, 2013, 06:12:16 PM »

And the Catholic Church hasn't ruled either, since the close of Vatican II. Cardinal Dolan of NY said as much yesterday in reference to both Sodomite marriage and ObamaCare.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2013, 11:35:17 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

Quote from: Mabel
The supposed Vicar of Christ, the man who has the power to bind and loose, who heads the Church whose mission is to teach, govern, and sanctify is not fit to teach religion to children?

No one can see that this is essentially an untenable position? It leads to making the papacy into nothing more than a figurehead. Bergoglio is like the queen of England.

:king:

Thank you. This is my take on this sort of thinking. I have actually come to the same analogy with the English royalty. Those that say we MUST have a visible head sound more and more like they just want a guy in white who looks like Pope but in the end means absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter if the guy in white speaks and acts Catholic...as long as there is a guy that everyone can point to and say "there is the pope!". The problem is is the Church actually visible with a head that does not act and speak Catholic?

Nice Post. She is visible so long as their is a living Catholic bishop. I used to think one Priest might be the bare minimum but it seems there needs to be one Catholic Bishop at a minimum. She maintains this visibility even when some guy (apostate/heretic) that heads a false religion wears a white cassock (but NEVER the Tiara).

People are starting to get it. Francis is a sort of blessing. God does bring good out of evil. Thanks to Francis you no longer merely have to be willfully blind to deny even the possibility of SV but somewhat retarded as well. Hopefully that does not offend anyone as I believe most people here accept that SV even if they disagree with it is not a coo coo bananas position to take but is backed by logical reasoning, authoritative docuмents and divine law.

I would venture to guess that many who insist Francis is the unifying head of the Catholic Church claim he is not a manifest heretic or needs to be authoritatively (by who? must we raise the dead for the authoritative judgement or would one of the 3 good SSPX bishops be good enough for it to be "authoritative"?) proven such.