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Offline Centroamerica

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Was the resignation of Benedict valid.
« on: December 03, 2013, 06:11:35 AM »
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  • One of the articles which caused Fr. Kramer to completely change his position from sede vacante to una cuм papa nostro Benedicto makes many valid points and the reader is overwhelmingly compelled to accept that the resignation of Pope Benedict was not valid. The original article is in Spanish and if you cannot read Spanish it is worth getting out your google translator. The article claims that just as a woman coerced to say I do and freely given her marriage is still invalid just as the papacy resignation would be. Then it cites important evidence that Benefict was forced to resign. Most compelling of all is the intentional error in his Latin which Benedict would have known and been able to correct. According the article there is a rule that if the Latin has errors the docuмent is not valid and cites examples. It then claims that even if you claim this is not correct then the error is still intentional and still sufficient evidence that the resignation of Benedict is not valid. I must admit that I was baffled when I read this a month ago and when seeing Fr. Kramer declare sede vacante sent it to him to get his opinion. Within little time he was saying una cuм papa nostro Bendicto and before that he had been asserting that Pope Benedict's resignation was valid. If the article can legitimately be refuted is one thing. If not then we have a problem. You will want to translate this or read it.

    http://www.ultimostiempos.org/7-noticias/150-bxvi
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Was the resignation of Benedict valid.
    « Reply #1 on: December 03, 2013, 08:55:07 AM »
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  • Father Kramer would do well to realize that the heresies taught by Francis I were also taught by Benedict XVI et al.


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    Was the resignation of Benedict valid.
    « Reply #2 on: December 03, 2013, 09:08:29 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    Father Kramer would do well to realize that the heresies taught by Francis I were also taught by Benedict XVI et al.


    I totally agree. The whole thing is like a bad joke which does nothing but help the unknowing into knowing less and being confused more.

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Was the resignation of Benedict valid.
    « Reply #3 on: December 03, 2013, 10:09:10 AM »
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  • Matthew rightly pointed out at some point that there's no substantial difference between the doctrine of Bergoglio and that of his predecessors.

    Francis just happens to be an "outrageous" heretic vs. an ordinary, run of the mill, regular heretic.  LOL ... I find the adjectives which the Dimonds put in front of the word heretic to be somewhat amusing.  "outrageous bad-willed heretic".