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Offline Gregory I

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Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
« on: September 03, 2011, 07:19:09 PM »
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  • THis is from Hutton Gibson's Websiste, is this TRUE?!


    “Masonic Lodge Eterna Catena of Palermo :
     
    “We, Master Masons, dignitaries and officials of the third degree of Masonry of St. John, certify in the name of the Supreme Master, who directs all, that on this, the date given below, at the hour of twelve at night, we have received in the Lodge in the form prescribed by our rituals, and with entire conformity to our constitution, the Brother Giovanni Ferretti Mastai, a native of the Pontifical States, who, having assumed the oath in the presence of all of us, declared that he did not belong to any secret society hostile to the Lodge, and who has paid the charges demanded of him.
     
    “Wherefore we call upon all the Masonic Lodges of the world to recognize him and hold him as a genuine and true Mason, received in a just and perfect Lodge, and thus we regard and certify him, as a conscientious and honourable man.
     
    “In testimony of the entire truth of the present docuмent, we sign in Palermo, in the profane and civil year 1839, on the fifteenth day of the month of August.
     
    “Wilhelm von Wittelsburg, Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Bavaria, Prince of Bavaria”
     
    In 1874 the Voice of Masonry published the following article of news :-
     
    “ ‘ A man named Mastai Feretti, who received the baptism of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and solemnly pledged his love and fellowship, and afterwards was crowned Pope and King, under the title of Pio Nino, has now cursed his former brethren and excommunicated all members of the Order of Freemasons. Therefore, said Mastai Feretti is herewith, by decree of the Grand Lodge of the Orient, Palermo, expelled from the Order for perjury.’
     
    [The Freemasons never hint at a reason for such treason or its timing. Could it have grown from the 1865 assassination, with marks of Masonic ritual, of Pius IX’s Secretary of State?]
     
    “ The charges against him were first prepared against him in his Lodge at Palermo in 1865, and notification and copy thereof sent to him, with a request to attend the Lodge for the purpose of answering the same. To this he made no reply, and for divers reasons the charges were not pressed until he urged the Bishops of Brazil to act aggressively towards the Freemasons. Then they were pressed, and, after a regular trial, a decree of expulsion was entered and published, the same being signed by Victor Emmanuel, King of Italy, and the Grand Master of the Orient of Italy.” The King thus returned his compliments for the “major excommunication” which the Pope has sent him a few years previously with the Pope’s kind regards.” “It is difficult,” said the Pall Mall Gazette, in October 1874, “to see what retort Pius IX. can make to this decree, unless, indeed, he has in reserve some still more formidable maledictory missile to launch at the Grand Lodge of the Orient. But in these days, unfortunately, a papal anathema is hardly as terrible as a Masonic decree.”

    Apparently he repented, but this is still disconcerting...
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    Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
    « Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 08:04:38 PM »
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  • The story is a lie. I have come to expect this kind of crap from Gibson. He also attacks Card Rampolla and Pope Siri( Gregory XVII). Gibsons are not to be trusted.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
    « Reply #2 on: September 03, 2011, 08:07:52 PM »
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  • Until it comes from a reputable source, which Hutton Gibson most certainly is not, don't stress about it.  Ask yourself, "Does it seem even remotely possible that this could be true?"
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    Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
    « Reply #3 on: September 03, 2011, 08:37:53 PM »
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  • With all due respect, Hutton is far from being a reputable source. He's said stupid things like the Benedict XVI is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ (which he definitely would have a hard time proving..) and has appeared on "The Political Cesspool" quite a number of times to promote his views. For those who don't know, the Political Cesspool is a right-wing "pro-white" (:rolleyes:) radio talk show hosted by the Protestant "Christian" James Edwards, a man whose persecution complex, obsession with race and zeal-driven nationalism makes him suspect of idolatry.
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra

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    Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
    « Reply #4 on: September 03, 2011, 08:40:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: Daegus
    For those who don't know, the Political Cesspool is a right-wing "pro-white" (:rolleyes:) radio talk show hosted by the Protestant "Christian" James Edwards, a man whose persecution complex, obsession with race and zeal-driven nationalism makes him suspect of idolatry.



    Now you aren't just pointing this out cause of some personal reasons, right? LOL, jk man.

    Yeah Hutton is a loon for doing the whole racial things. We should send him a link to that thread you created a few months back that put you on the map here... what a thread.


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    Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
    « Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 08:50:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: PartyIsOver221
    Quote from: Daegus
    For those who don't know, the Political Cesspool is a right-wing "pro-white" (:rolleyes:) radio talk show hosted by the Protestant "Christian" James Edwards, a man whose persecution complex, obsession with race and zeal-driven nationalism makes him suspect of idolatry.



    Now you aren't just pointing this out cause of some personal reasons, right? LOL, jk man.

    Yeah Hutton is a loon for doing the whole racial things. We should send him a link to that thread you created a few months back that put you on the map here... what a thread.


    I have a hard time not being skeptical of people who constantly say things like "I'm pro-white" or "anti-racism is a codeword for anti-white". This skepticism arises from the fact that these people (usually) seem to be under some delusive notion that all non-whites (or at least, non-whites as a collective) are conspiring to destroy and/or adulterate the white gene pool by means of immigration because of their hatred of whites.

    It's hard to take someone seriously when they think you want to kill them because you don't agree with all of their political ideals.  
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra

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    Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
    « Reply #6 on: September 04, 2011, 10:40:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: Daegus
    With all due respect, Hutton is far from being a reputable source. He's said stupid things like the Benedict XVI is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ (which he definitely would have a hard time proving..) and has appeared on "The Political Cesspool" quite a number of times to promote his views. For those who don't know, the Political Cesspool is a right-wing "pro-white" (:rolleyes:) radio talk show hosted by the Protestant "Christian" James Edwards, a man whose persecution complex, obsession with race and zeal-driven nationalism makes him suspect of idolatry.


    If this is referring to my post, then I guess I was not clear.  I agree completely that Hutton is not in any sense a reputable source for anything.  Expect, perhaps,  for delusion.
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    Was Pius IX a freemason?!?!?!?!?!
    « Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 08:27:15 AM »
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  •  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Was EVERY Pope a Freemason, or suspected to be, at one time or another?

    The way these accusations seem to fly, it can appear so.