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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Geremia on May 29, 2019, 12:52:45 PM

Title: Was ++Lefebvre the first Superior General of a religious order to resign?
Post by: Geremia on May 29, 2019, 12:52:45 PM
From Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre vol. 1 ch. 3 (http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Apologia/Vol_one/Chapter_3.htm)
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Indeed, I suffered terribly. Imagine if I had remained with the Holy Ghost Fathers where, in theory, I should have stayed until 1974. I could have stayed until 1974 as Superior General. I had been named for twelve years in 1962. But I submitted my resignation in 1968 and, in fact, I was glad to do so, because I did not want to collaborate in the destruction of my congregation. And had I remained Bishop of Tulle, I cannot very well imagine myself at present in a diocese of France! In an environment like that, I should probably have had a nervous breakdown!
Besides ++Lefebvre, have any other Superior Generals of religious orders ever resigned?

Catholic-hierarchy.org's entry for the Holy Ghost Fathers (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dqcsp.html) lists him as the most recent of its ordinaries. They didn't elect a new Superior General to succeed him?
Title: Re: Was ++Lefebvre the first Superior General of a religious order to resign?
Post by: Stanley N on May 29, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
From Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre vol. 1 ch. 3 (http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Apologia/Vol_one/Chapter_3.htm)Besides ++Lefebvre, have any other Superior Generals of religious orders ever resigned?

Catholic-hierarchy.org's entry for the Holy Ghost Fathers (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dqcsp.html) lists him as the most recent of its ordinaries. They didn't elect a new Superior General to succeed him?
Yes, other superior generals have resigned in history. It seems unlikely any did in the 1960s for the same reason as +Lefebvre though; not many conservatives were chosen SG of their order at the time.

The section of "ordinaries" is clearly not a complete list of superior generals. It is probably just those superior generals who were bishops. The SG of the C.S.Sp. after +Lefebvre was a priest. The current SG of the C.S.Sp is Fr. John Fogarty.
Title: Re: Was ++Lefebvre the first Superior General of a religious order to resign?
Post by: Geremia on May 29, 2019, 04:25:57 PM
Louis Le Hunsec (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/blehun.html) says he died "Superior General Emeritus", but Marcel-François Lefebvre (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/blefebvre.html) doesn't say ++Lefebvre held the title "Superior General Emeritus".
Thus, Louis Le Hunsec (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/blehun.html) died a Holy Ghost Father, but was Marcel-François Lefebvre (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/blefebvre.html), upon his resignation as Superior General, excommunicated from the Holy Ghost Fathers?

To whom is a "Superior General Emeritus" obedient, anyways? What happens to their vow of obedience?
Title: Re: Was ++Lefebvre the first Superior General of a religious order to resign?
Post by: Geremia on May 29, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
It is probably just those superior generals who were bishops.
Oh yes you're right. That site is only of bishops.