Okay, but I fail to see what that has to do with the question I keep asking.

If the Novus Ordo types are to convert to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, where is it exactly? Or....is it just a state of mind?

"We get wise by asking questions, and even if these are not answered, we get wise, for a well-packed question carries its answer on its back as a snail carries its shell."-James Stephens, Irish author

"We get wise by asking questions, and even if these are not answered, we get wise, for a well-packed question carries its answer on its back as a snail carries its shell."-James Stephens, Irish author

Nonsense.

What are your thoughts on the following?

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/una-cuм-mass/

From what others have witnessed, the two Dimond brothers are attending and receiving communion in an Eastern Catholic Church.
Thus the Dimond Brothers' argument seems to be stating that Traditional Catholics can receive the sacraments from Eastern Catholic priests even though the name of Francis is mentioned.

While the Novus Ordo is becoming more protestantized, the Eastern Catholic Churches seem to be preserving the ancient Liturgy. Yes, perhaps the Ruthenians have changed a few things, but essentially, it is the same.

The situation is not crystal clear for thousands of devout little old ladies and a few old men who continue to gather together for the Rosary and are persecuted by certain priests for doing so. Pushed out of their local parish churches, they gather together at local cloistered monasteries where the nuns welcome them.

They go along with the Vatican II New Church because they were raised Catholics and believe everything that comes from the mouths of their priests and Francis. They believe that they should not judge nor gossip.

If anyone were to try to convert these old ones over to Catholic Traditionalism, these gray panthers would shake their old bony fingers and attack with the mantras instilled by Vatican II: Do not judge; do not try to be holier than the pope; and finally, do not be part of the problem, instead try to be part of the solution and pray.

What can we do?  If anyone were to try to convert these ancient ones to Traditionalism, these ladies and gentlemen might lose their faith all together. They are so naive, and yes, gullible, but they remain firm in their belief that the pope can do no wrong, and that the gates of hell will not prevail.

I beg your pardon, these little old ladies and few old men, were raised prior to Vatican II, therefore they if anyone should have the grace to know that Vatican II is not the same religion they were raised with.   I should know because I am one of those little old ladies, born in 1940.  

We have derailed this thread long enough.
guten Tag.

I am going to derail this thread even more and call out Gottmituns for falsely accusing me of being a marrano.  He just made another allusion to it today, on another forum where I am not allowed to join and so am unable to defend myself.  Thus my post here.

It is true that I am of Jєωιѕн heritage, but my conversion was sincere.  I attended the Novus Ordo for about 30 years before discovering traditional Catholicism, so my first years on trad forums did contain errors.  I lacked good instruction and formation.  But there is no evidence whatsoever to back his accusation, nor has there been a hint of unorthodoxy from me for the last several years.

How can he say such things?