Author Topic: WARNING: Avoid Ripperger's Prayers Adjuring Demons (Read 50876 times)

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #100 on:** June 25, 2023, 03:23:17 PM »

The Holy Rosary is the most indulgenced prayer in the Church, except for Holy Mass. There’s no need for the indulters to “reinvent the wheel” but that’s just what they’ve done with the deliverance prayers. If one has problems, of any kind, say the rosary. Our Lady can banish/conquer any demon She wants. There’s no need for any “special” prayers. The Rosary is all St Padre Pio needed; that’s good for all of us.

Miseremini · « **Reply #101 on:** June 25, 2023, 03:45:34 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 25, 2023, 03:23:17 PM

The Holy Rosary is the most indulgenced prayer in the Church, except for Holy Mass.

Sorry but the most highly indulgenced prayer in the Church is and always has been the Stations of the Cross, check any Raccolta.

Secondly, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass has never been indulgenced as it cannot be offered by a lay person.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #102 on:** June 25, 2023, 08:53:18 PM »

Quote from: Kephapaulos on June 25, 2023, 11:44:19 AM

P. Ripperger seems to make strong claims from his experience as an exorcist though as well as others in the Novus Ordo. From what he said, Fr. Vincent Palao wanted to start an order like his, the Dolorans.

Would you say they are putting themselves also at risk in their work, Ladislaus?

There is this impression that they know what they are doing.

What are you talking about? We were discussing laymen issuing commands to demons, not priests. Of course, that would depend upon whether you believe Father Ripperger et al. are actually priests (or at least Exorcists). If they aren't, the devil could play along in an attempt to legitimize NO "Holy Orders".

SPelli · « **Reply #103 on:** June 25, 2023, 09:41:07 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 25, 2023, 10:55:21 AM

So, to reiterate briefly, St. Alphonsus distinguishes between 1) issuing commands and 2) making requests. He stated (and cited St. Thomas also) that it's grave sin to make requests of demons, as it engages the individual in a sort of fellowship with the demons. That leaves issuing commands. With regard to issuing commands, St. Alphonsus says that commands can only be issued by someone in authority to those under his authority. So, for instance, a bishop may issue commands to priests under his authority, or parents to their children, etc. Then he says that Exorcists may issue commands to demons because they have authority over them on account of the Church. At NO POINT does St. Alphonsus state that we can issue commands to to those not under our authority (i.e. to demons) simply because they are afflicting someone who IS under our authority.

Interesting stuff. Can you post a link to St. Alphonsus book?

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #104 on:** June 26, 2023, 10:38:28 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 25, 2023, 08:53:18 PM

What are you talking about? We were discussing laymen issuing commands to demons, not priests. Of course, that would depend upon whether you believe Father Ripperger et al. are actually priests (or at least Exorcists). If they aren't, the devil could play along in an attempt to legitimize NO "Holy Orders".

Sorry. I did not realize it was off topic. I was talking about the fact that P. Ripperger et al. talk so much about their exorcist experiences. I just was not sure whether we could take their word for what they have said in regard to them.

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Author Topic: WARNING: Avoid Ripperger's Prayers Adjuring Demons (Read 50876 times)

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