Author Topic: Vote on Greg XVII (Read 2943 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #15 on:** May 16, 2009, 02:26:54 PM »

Although there are some major errors in Cornwell's book Hitlers Pope, it also filled with a ton of fascinating info. About Card Mindszenty also.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #16 on:** May 16, 2009, 05:35:37 PM »

"Paul VI" according to Paul Williams, had quite an extensive FBI file on him before he became "pope," and was responsible for the execution and torture of many bishops behind the Iron Curtain.

roscoe · « **Reply #17 on:** May 16, 2009, 05:43:42 PM »

More properly referred to as Paul 6

roscoe · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2009, 05:48:01 PM »

So far there are three willing to go on the record as accepting Gregory XVII as true Pope until he died in 1989-- anyone else?

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:22:02 PM »

Right now, for me, it is the most plausible explanation. I'm going to get that proof if it exists. If Paul Williams is not a complete fraud, and misrepresenting the facts, then yes, it seems that would be the reasonable explanation.

I just can't believe no one has gone to DC to get those docuмents, except for him. I've scoured the net trying to find these "secret dispatches" and "confidential biograph(ies)" and no one, not even Mister Williams (who I've emailed through his "defense fund" three different times) can produce them, and no one has them.

I just pray if they really do exist that I can get them with relative ease.

roscoe · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:45:01 PM »

I wouldn't get your hopes up to high, If Williams can't produce them, what makes you think you can? When are you going to attempt to personally view the docuмents? Thanks for your efforts but if you don't succeed it won't matter much to me. I agree that the actual election of Greg XVII is the most likely explanation for all that is happening.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #21 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:23:15 AM »

I should have said "didn't" produce them, not "couldn't." He has to be busy with his pretty nutty Lifeboat organization and his "defense fund" didn't return my emails. I even called Lifeboat, and I got no reply. So..

I will probably be going the first or second week of June.

Inquisitor · « **Reply #22 on:** May 20, 2009, 05:47:40 AM »

Sorry Roscoe and company, but apostates can not be popes. I agree that Siri was the one who was originally "elected" instead of Roncalli, but neither one was truly elected. Siri submitted to and was in communion with Antipope Pius XII (who lost his office in '51). The "cardinals" who "elected" Siri were not Catholic, thus they were not true Cardinals (and neither was Siri). Even if Siri's election was valid, which it wasn't, he would have lost his office 1) for submitting to an Apostate Antipope, 2) for being a member of an apostate sect, and 3) for publicly accepting the apostate Second Vatican Council.

Was Siri "elected" instead of Roncalli? Yes! Was he "pope"? Absolutely not! Wake up!

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #23 on:** May 20, 2009, 10:52:00 AM »

Hold on a second.

You're calling Pius XII and antipope?

Please explain.

roscoe · « **Reply #24 on:** May 20, 2009, 12:22:40 PM »

Maybe Chant should check IP addresses as Inquisitor reminds me of Catholic Martyr. They both claim that Pius XII lost his office in 1951

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #25 on:** May 20, 2009, 12:48:56 PM »

Why though?