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Offline Petertherock

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Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
« on: January 07, 2014, 03:04:17 PM »
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  • Voris is a joke...just like with VII, it's a problem with translation...not with what he says...

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/C4cWQwt3poA?[/youtube]



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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #1 on: January 07, 2014, 03:52:59 PM »
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    Whereas the Apostles had the gift of tongues, such that their listeners could understand them as if they were speaking their own languages, today we have the total inversion of this, to the point where the words the pope speaks cannot be translated in any other language without 'getting it wrong' and therefore no one else knows what he's saying.  

    In fact, even those whose native language the pope is speaking can't be sure they really understand, because two listeners at the same time speaking the same language get two different meanings from his words.  

    This is Diabolical Disorientation.

    It is a fulfillment of St. Paul in II Tim. iv. 3-4:

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: 4And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."


    No one would have expected one of the teachers of fables would be the pope.


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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #2 on: January 07, 2014, 10:59:03 PM »
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  • Voris is in the same vote with the 'apologists' on Catholic Radio.

    They are too afraids to speak out against Pope Francis, heretic because the libby NOMers will demand they be fried. The gravy boat will be turned to pour forth gravy on the mashed potatoes but their will be no gravy.

    Basically, people will call for them to be fired, people will stop sponsoring their retarded programming. They will turn the channel to Jerry Springer.

    Then, no more cruises or trips to the Holy Land for Michael Voris.

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    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2014, 04:48:02 AM »
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    But I LIKE gravy on mashed potatoes.    :ready-to-eat:

    A gravy boat is fun, but not necessary.  That goofy spoon with the two sided pouring spouts is really weird.  

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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 08:20:06 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    But I LIKE gravy on mashed potatoes.    :ready-to-eat:

    A gravy boat is fun, but not necessary.  That goofy spoon with the two sided pouring spouts is really weird.  

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    The next time I take a bubble bath the gravy boat is coming with me, we will see how much fun it is, I will make it necessary- await the YouTube video.


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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 08:27:03 AM »
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  • Maybe Voris should call his ship "The Gravy Boat" during his next Lenten cruise.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #6 on: January 08, 2014, 08:56:20 AM »
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  • I unsubscribed from Michael Voris' mailing list about two months ago, right after Francis allowed his "Marchetto is the best hermeneut of the Second Vatican Council" communique to be become public knowledge.

    Voris averred that "anyone who doesn't see this as Pope Francis bringing the lumber [a favorite phrase of his] to the liberal modernist crowd is insane and needs to be committed."

    Whatever. Voris' attempt to calumniate those who see through the postconciliar farce will only weaken his own credibility. I am off the list and I am much better for it.

    By the way, hello everybody. It's been a very long time.
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    « Reply #7 on: January 08, 2014, 09:10:37 AM »
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  • Nice to have you back.


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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #8 on: January 08, 2014, 07:38:22 PM »
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  • Neil Obstat,
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    Whereas the Apostles had the gift of tongues, such that their listeners could understand them as if they were speaking their own languages, today we have the total inversion of this, to the point where the words the pope speaks cannot be translated in any other language without 'getting it wrong' and therefore no one else knows what he's saying.  

     In fact, even those whose native language the pope is speaking can't be sure they really understand, because two listeners at the same time speaking the same language get two different meanings from his words.  


    I hate to say it but perhaps Bishop Fellay is just about up to speed for communicating with this Pope. Maybe he was just in training the last few years when we couldn't make heads or tails from his statements because of all those bad translations.

    Hey! maybe the DD of 2012 was just a Franciscan love letter?

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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #9 on: January 08, 2014, 08:09:42 PM »
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  • I remember being surprised when soon after Francis was elected, Voris seemed to think that he would be a good Pope.
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    « Reply #10 on: January 08, 2014, 08:47:57 PM »
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  • What crap:

    Quote from: Charlemagne
    Maybe Voris should call his ship "The Gravy Boat" during his next Lenten cruise.


    This is a perfect example of slander, and a failure of "Christian Online Behavior," as discussed in another thread.  

    There's plenty of ways to talk about what is happening with the Vortex without being snotty.


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    Moving on, it is plain to everyone that Voris is avoiding saying anything bad about the pope.  Why, I wonder?  Does he truly think the pope is just terrific?  Or are they afraid at St. Michael's Media to talk about the pope's pastoral errors?
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    « Reply #11 on: January 08, 2014, 09:06:24 PM »
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    What crap:

    Quote from: Charlemagne
    Maybe Voris should call his ship "The Gravy Boat" during his next Lenten cruise.


    This is a perfect example of slander, and a failure of "Christian Online Behavior," as discussed in another thread.  

    There's plenty of ways to talk about what is happening with the Vortex without being snotty.


    Yeah, I give a flying flip what you think. Shouldn't you be working on your next installment for the "esteemed" Hirsch Files? I'm sure both of your readers are eagerly awaiting your latest tripe.

    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #12 on: January 08, 2014, 09:14:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: Charlemagne
     Yeah, I give a flying flip what you think. Shouldn't you be working on your next installment for the "esteemed" Hirsch Files? I'm sure both of your readers are eagerly awaiting your latest tripe.



    Oh, thank you for reminding me to promote my latest blog post, where I compare sedevacantism enthusiasts to radical feminists!

    Sedevacantism 6: Feminism and how Sedevacantism can be compared with it
    http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2013/12/sedevacantism-6-feminism-and-how.html

    I've been meaning to update with a new post, but I'm just stretched for time these days.  Just re-read everything on the blog.  It's super duper.  

    Also, thank you for providing another great example of what Christian charity online should not look like!  

     :smile:

    But moving away from your love for me, we can also recall the nice round of happy charity directed at Ggreg last year.  That also was not so great, and a terrible example to outsiders.

    But discussions about good Christian online behavior belong on that thread, so I'll just link to it here:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Christian-Online-Behavior
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle

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    « Reply #13 on: January 08, 2014, 11:03:55 PM »
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    Quote from: Charlemagne
     Yeah, I give a flying flip what you think. Shouldn't you be working on your next installment for the "esteemed" Hirsch Files? I'm sure both of your readers are eagerly awaiting your latest tripe.



    Oh, thank you for reminding me to promote my latest blog post, where I compare sedevacantism enthusiasts to radical feminists!

    Sedevacantism 6: Feminism and how Sedevacantism can be compared with it
    http://thehirschfiles.blogspot.com/2013/12/sedevacantism-6-feminism-and-how.html

    I've been meaning to update with a new post, but I'm just stretched for time these days.  Just re-read everything on the blog.  It's super duper.  

    Also, thank you for providing another great example of what Christian charity online should not look like!  

     :smile:

    But moving away from your love for me, we can also recall the nice round of happy charity directed at Ggreg last year.  That also was not so great, and a terrible example to outsiders.

    But discussions about good Christian online behavior belong on that thread, so I'll just link to it here:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Christian-Online-Behavior


    Please shut up already.

    You know the fact of the matter is that we all know that Voris would be taking anyone else to task for the crappy behavior of this Pope- he won't do it and the only logical conclusion is he is afraid he will lose revenue from the possible backlash.

    Look at Voris's videos- anti-gαy one after the other- now Francis panders to gαys and atheists- where is Voris now ?- Making excuses just like the Catholic Radio boys. Too scared they will lose a paycheck by speaking up for Christ and the Church.

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    Voris grasping at straws to defend Pope
    « Reply #14 on: January 08, 2014, 11:14:25 PM »
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    Please shut up already.


    My!  What a nasty person you are!

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    You know the fact of the matter is that we all know that Voris would be taking anyone else to task for the crappy behavior of this Pope- he won't do it and the only logical conclusion is he is afraid he will lose revenue from the possible backlash.


    ...Too scared they will lose a paycheck by speaking up for Christ and the Church.


    I disagree with you.  I believe you are making an assumption, here.  
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle