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Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2018, 05:02:40 PM »
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  • And like Ladislaus said a sedeplenist chart would have universal salvation purveyors, female priests, pro abortion groups, pro ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ etc etc

    That is the chart I would like to see (all 3000 branches lol).  


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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #16 on: March 19, 2018, 05:41:42 PM »
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  • Bishop Kelly and the SSPV aren't really sedevacantists but based upon positive doubt surrounding the status of the post-conciliar papacy. They make no position this or the other on whether they are True Popes like the CMRI does. CMRI is also very anti-Feenyite, posting in their chapels and many other places that Feenyites are barred from receiving the Sacraments in their chapels.

    What about the resistance priests that were in the USML? The Institute Mater Boni Consilii of Bishop Geert Jan Stuyver.
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    CMRI is anti-anyone-who-teaches-EENS.
    As soon as CMRI finds out someone is saying "outside the Church there is no salvation," the CMRI goes to great lengths to find something else to criticize them for, and then THAT'S the molehill they make into a mountain.
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    The point is to take the focus OFF of the necessity of the Catholic Faith, so that Lutherans and Mormons and Episcopalians can feel comfortable. It's all about feelings. Catholics who feel good with other Catholics are welcome, those who feel out of sorts among non-Catholics are unwelcome.
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    "Feenyites are barred from receiving the Sacraments in their chapels."
    They would "bar" St. Athanasius if he were to show up.
    He would make Protestants and pagans tense -- can't have that.
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    Have you ever heard a CMRI priest give a sermon on EENS?
    I'll tell you right now, don't bother looking, because it's not going to happen.
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    You'll never hear a CMRI priest asking anyone to pray for the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immacualte Heart of Mary.
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    They do Montfort Total Consecration to Mary
    They recite the Fatima prayers after Mass (sometimes -- usually between May and October)
    They repeat the story of the Fatima children -- with some emphasis -- and missing certain facts
    They conduct processions for Our Lady of Fatima with her statue carried on a bier
    But they refuse to encourage anyone to request from Rome the release of the Third Secret or the Consecration of Russia to the IHM
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    Someone made a decision that saying "the Seat is empty" is far more important than Heaven's plan for world peace.
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    When nuclear-tipped missiles start falling from the sky you can thank the CMRI for not asking for the Collegial Consecration of Russia.
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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #17 on: March 19, 2018, 05:48:13 PM »
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    One could hit Spokane and another Lincoln.
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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 07:55:11 AM »
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  • And like Ladislaus said a sedeplenist chart would have universal salvation purveyors, female priests, pro abortion groups, pro ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ etc etc

    That is the chart I would like to see (all 3000 branches lol).  

    Well, even within Traditional groups (ruling out straight Novus Ordo for a second).

    SSPX, Resistance, FSSP, Campos, ICK, Motu Groups, Independent Traditional Priests, Pfeiffer Cult, etc.  That's just what rolls off the top of my head.

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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 07:59:36 AM »
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  • "Feenyites are barred from receiving the Sacraments in their chapels."

    Is that so?

    CMRI also promote NFP.  And these liberal attitudes definitely seem to bear fruit.  Remember when, not too long ago, a group of CMRI nuns broke off and became full-blown Novus Ordo?

    Also, some teenage girls I know from the CMRI chapel in Akron run around in short shorts out in public during the week (from at least two different families that I know).


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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 08:00:24 AM »
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  • When nuclear-tipped missiles start falling from the sky you can thank the CMRI for not asking for the Collegial Consecration of Russia.

    Well, nobody would have heeded their request anyway.

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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #21 on: March 20, 2018, 12:49:58 PM »
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    CMRI also promote NFP.
    Yes, this is a big controversy in Minnesota, I hear.  Non-CMRI catholics aren't allowed to attend certain chapels (even though some Minn people don't have any other Mass options) due to NFP debates and the long-running Feeneyism argument.

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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #22 on: March 20, 2018, 12:55:25 PM »
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  • Really!  Reading here I wonder why God blesses C.M.R.I. so very much.

    Thank you God, I appreciate your continued blessings.  
    Please pray for my soul.
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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #23 on: March 20, 2018, 01:00:57 PM »
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  • Really!  Reading here I wonder why God blesses C.M.R.I. so very much.

    Thank you God, I appreciate your continued blessings.  

    Matthew 5:45
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    ...[Y]our Father who is in heaven ... maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust.

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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #24 on: March 20, 2018, 01:42:13 PM »
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  • "The blessing of the Lord is upon the head of the just: but iniquity covereth the mouth of the wicked."
    [Proverbs 10:6]
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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #25 on: March 20, 2018, 02:54:56 PM »
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  • Myrna, just because some CMRI in Minnesota are uncharitable doesn't mean I'm criticizing the whole organization.  I don't like to 'write off' a whole group just because of a few bad apples.


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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #26 on: March 20, 2018, 03:04:58 PM »
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  • Myrna, just because some CMRI in Minnesota are uncharitable doesn't mean I'm criticizing the whole organization.  I don't like to 'write off' a whole group just because of a few bad apples.
    That is good then Pax Vobis for neither does C.M.R.I. criticized other Trad. groups on the Internet.  Remember there are always going to be bad apples, even Jesus picked Judas.
    Lad should read his verse here from Matthew 5:45 and take the advice instead of posting whatever he thinks he wants it to mean, hoping no one will check out the context.  
    Most of the negative posted here about CMRI are nothing but exaggerated points of view.  
    If your looking for the absolutely perfect group without any dings, you won't find it!  Enjoy the search.  
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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #27 on: March 20, 2018, 05:04:27 PM »
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    CMRI is anti-anyone-who-teaches-EENS.
    As soon as CMRI finds out someone is saying "outside the Church there is no salvation," the CMRI goes to great lengths to find something else to criticize them for, and then THAT'S the molehill they make into a mountain.
    Justice demands that you retract this libel. I can post recordings of the CMRI priest where I sometimes attend saying "outside the Church there is no salvation" without mentioning any of the Feenyite debate or related topics.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #28 on: March 20, 2018, 05:34:57 PM »
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  • Justice demands that you retract this libel. I can post recordings of the CMRI priest where I sometimes attend saying "outside the Church there is no salvation" without mentioning any of the Feenyite debate or related topics.

    It's clear what he meant; the use of the phrase "EENS" has become codeword for Feeneyite.

    In any case, the CMRI published an article (twice) entitled "The Salvation of Those Outside the Church" .. where the very title of the article verbatim contradicts defined dogma.

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    Re: Visual map of all branches of Sedevacantism - by Fr Chazal
    « Reply #29 on: March 20, 2018, 05:54:45 PM »
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  • It's clear what he meant; the use of the phrase "EENS" has become codeword for Feeneyite.

    I would disagree with this entire statement.

    In any case, the CMRI published an article (twice) entitled "The Salvation of Those Outside the Church" .. where the very title of the article verbatim contradicts defined dogma.

    I had no idea about this.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...