No I'd say its authentic alright and the 'warning' is definitely going to happen, maybe within the next 10 or 15 years or so going by the ages of Joey Lamingino and Conchita. (I don't think its going to happen in say a year or two because it talks about things getting very bad before the warning, much worse than things seem now? Even, it seems, sometime after a kind of Communist takeover.)

But thats not to say that Garabandal couldn't get twisted. I was just reading some writings from some modern day visionaries that I have my doubts about, a number of them, and I was struck by how they also talk of a 'warning' happening just like Garabandal and sometimes name that place and sometimes not. I wonder if in fact that the powers that be also believe in Garabandal and will try to wind into the story their own false take on it? In otherwords they could say when you experience this it will be proof of what we told you, in the false visionaries, and here now is our (false) prophet that predicted this and look what else he has to say....(meaning lies). Its just an impression, so I think yes, it is going to happen but no, it is quite right to retain ones reserve when dealing with these supernatural goings on and make sure again that everybody who is talking about it is the real deal. That would certainly include Padre Pio though.

I know it's right and proper to be sceptical of modern day supernatural aids like this and there are indeed plenty of charlatans out there but I don't know that it's right to be ultra sceptical. We have a Blessed Mother - as Conchita always calls her - in heaven and no doubt she would be anxious to warn us in time about what was really going on in the Church in the 60s. Hence when she says to Conchita right in the middle of Vat II that many Cardinals etc are leading people to hell why would we be so surprised? She is bound to try and warn us?

Well look at it another way. You were asking 'why this era', why is this generation to get this incredible miracle when all others didn't? But actually miracles aren't all that uncommon if you read for example the history of the Irish saints as they brought Christianity back to Western Europe. But they aren't common in the history of Europe after Christianity became established because, I respectfully submit, of two reasons:

1. Because in fact it's better if people believe without having the answer thrust in front of them too overtly, "happy are those who believe although they do not see" as the quote goes, or words to that effect. But that's clearly not working now, people are just not believing.
2. Secondly the people just didn't need those miracles then. Most people were Christian and those that weren't must have been pretty stubborn and kind of deserve their supernatural fate whatever it was.

But now look at the situation, the pagan world is back! A person educated in the public schools and following the ordinary media hardly stands any chance of lifting himself up from the mire. In a way he needs a miracle and in a sense justice should allow him one? A lot of people don't have the kind of religious aids that they had a few years ago - like even a stable upbringing - and maybe then this miracle will even the score?

 I was fortunate to travel to Garbandal with "Joey L. " in 1970.  Joey was a spirtual son of St. Padre Pio. His personal conversion by going to confession to St. Pio is remarkable and all too lenghty to include here. To claim that St. Padre Pio was weak in mind or deceived by the events of Garabandal is a slap on this great saints ability to discern good from evil. It was the Saint who advise Joey to go there in the first place and that was at least 7 years before Padre Pio died. The main visionary of Garabandal, Conchita Gonzalas, visited St. Pio before his death. She was named in his will to be given his religious cross after his death.
 At no time did these children ever receive the Blessed Sacrement while walking backwards. They always received it upon the tonuge and while kneeling. I might point out that in 1858 Our Lady had Saint Bernadette dig in the mud before the spring bubbled up. People thought she had lost her mind or that the devil was behind her visions.
  These apparitions at Garabandal took place during the Vatican Council II. Most important were the two messages given:

OCT.18,1961:
WE MUST MAKE MANY SACRIFICES, PERFORM MUCH PENANCE, AND VISIT THE BLESSED SACREMENT FREQUENTLY. BUT FIRST, WE MUST LEAD GOOD LIVES. IF WE DO NOT, A CHASTISEMENT WILL BEFALL US. THE CUP IS ALREADY FILLING UP, AND IF WE DO NOT CHANGE, A VERY GREAT CHASTISEMENT WILL COME UPON US.

JUNE 18, 1965:
AS MY MESSAGE OF OCTOBER 18 HAS NOT BEEN COMPLIED WITH AND HAS NOT BEEN MADE KNOWN TO THE WORLD, I AM ADVISING YOU THAT THIS IS THE LAST ONE. BEFORE, THE CUP WAS FILLING UP. NOW IT IS FLOWING OVER. MANY CARDINALS, MANY BISHOPS AND MANY PRIESTS ARE ON THE ROAD TO PERDITION AND ARE TAKING MANY SOULS WITH THEM. LESS AND LESS IMPORTANCE IS BEING GIVEN TO THE EUCHARIST. YOU SHOULD TURN THE WARTH OF GOD AWAY FROM YOURSELVES BY YOUR EFFORTS. IF YOU ASK HIS FORGIVENESS WITH SINCERE HEARTS, HE WILL PARDON YOU.  I, YOUR MOTHER, THROUGH THE INTERCESSION OF SAINT MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL, ASK YOU TO AMEND YOUR LIVES. YOU ARE NOW RECEIVINGS THE LAST WARNINGS. I LOVE YOU WERY MUCH AND DO NOT WANT YOUR CONDEMNATION. PRAY TO US WITH SINCERITY AND WE WILL GRANT YOUR REQUESTS. YOU SHOULD MAKE MORE SACRIFICES.  THINK ABOUT THE PASSION OF JESUS.

  In my view, the Chastisement spoken of in the first message is the errors which were promoted during the Council. ( Read the books written by the Archbishop, "I Accuse the Council" or Fr. Wiltgen's, "The Rine Flows Into the Tiber")
 Who can deny the truth of the last message about the loss of souls and being led by priests, bishops and cardinals. What greater loss is there than to loose ones soul ?  And in closing, one more point regarding the childrens denial of seeing the Blessed Virgin, She had fortold them this would happen. She said you (the children) would deny seeing me. Your confusion will be like the confusion in the Church.
  Pray the the Pope and Bishops Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary before the beast comes forth !
  "ONLY SHE CAN HELP YOU!"

Bishop Richard Williamson believes in the Apparitions of Garabandal and has mentioned them several times his public speeches and sermons.

Those who judge them as "pure bunk" or something that any well educated Catholic ought to be able to discern as false should really write to the good Bishop, known for his independent thinking mind, and fearlessness, and ask him why he beleives them to be real.

Clearly he is not put off by the backward walking/running.

Personally I will wait until Joey Lomangino is dead and then write them off.  Can't be long now he's well into he 80s.

Looking at the way the world is heading now, however, looks to me that these events MIGHT be just over the horizon.  One decent black swan and it is goodbye to the capitalist economy and hello revolution and war.  Frankly I'm amazed they've kept the pyramid scheme operating for the last 4 years.

My bag is packed, my maps prepared.  If it happens it happens, if it does not we will have to wait for God to sort something else out.

Bishop Richard Williamson believes in the Apparitions of Garabandal and has mentioned them several times his public speeches and sermons.

Those who judge them as "pure bunk" or something that any well educated Catholic ought to be able to discern as false should really write to the good Bishop, known for his independent thinking mind, and fearlessness, and ask him why he beleives them to be real.

Clearly he is not put off by the backward walking/running.

Personally I will wait until Joey Lomangino is dead and then write them off.  Can't be long now he's well into he 80s.

Looking at the way the world is heading now, however, looks to me that these events MIGHT be just over the horizon.  One decent black swan and it is goodbye to the capitalist economy and hello revolution and war.  Frankly I'm amazed they've kept the pyramid scheme operating for the last 4 years.

 My bag is packed, my maps prepared.  If it happens it happens, if it does not we will have to wait for God to sort something else out.

It is hard to believe God would determine everything based upon "Joey Lomangino." Sounds like one of the deceptions that would come from Medjugore. Perhaps they have the same deceiver?

 The events predetermined at Garabandal will most certainly have fulfilment. In so far as the devil has copied our Lady at Fatima, La Salette, Akita, Quito, etc.

  It is good to know that if in fact it is true and Bishop Williamson believes so strongly that Garbandal is true at least it isn't a matter of Faith and Morals because we would certainly disagree on this matter. It is said our Lady appeared there over 2000 times. Why? 2 0 0 0  times!! This doesnt give the impression of a mother lovingly warning her children. Rather, it gives the impression of despair. Something that we all know comes from the Devil.

  Perhaps one should write the bishop and ask him if he believes and if so why. As for us our communications with him are on other, more important matters. Namely the Catholic Faith. Wouldn't think he'd have alot of time for Garbandal stuff right now.

  So lets not wait for "Joey" to die. Look at the facts and think now.

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Bishop Richard Williamson believes in the Apparitions of Garabandal and has mentioned them several times his public speeches and sermons.

Those who judge them as "pure bunk" or something that any well educated Catholic ought to be able to discern as false should really write to the good Bishop, known for his independent thinking mind, and fearlessness, and ask him why he beleives them to be real.

Clearly he is not put off by the backward walking/running.

Personally I will wait until Joey Lomangino is dead and then write them off.  Can't be long now he's well into he 80s.

Looking at the way the world is heading now, however, looks to me that these events MIGHT be just over the horizon.  One decent black swan and it is goodbye to the capitalist economy and hello revolution and war.  Frankly I'm amazed they've kept the pyramid scheme operating for the last 4 years.

 My bag is packed, my maps prepared.  If it happens it happens, if it does not we will have to wait for God to sort something else out.

It is hard to believe God would determine everything based upon "Joey Lomangino." Sounds like one of the deceptions that would come from Medjugore. Perhaps they have the same deceiver?

 The events predetermined at Garabandal will most certainly have fulfilment. In so far as the devil has copied our Lady at Fatima, La Salette, Akita, Quito, etc.

  It is good to know that if in fact it is true and Bishop Williamson believes so strongly that Garbandal is true at least it isn't a matter of Faith and Morals because we would certainly disagree on this matter. It is said our Lady appeared there over 2000 times. Why? 2 0 0 0  times!! This doesnt give the impression of a mother lovingly warning her children. Rather, it gives the impression of despair. Something that we all know comes from the Devil.

  Perhaps one should write the bishop and ask him if he believes and if so why. As for us our communications with him are on other, more important matters. Namely the Catholic Faith. Wouldn't think he'd have alot of time for Garbandal stuff right now.

  So lets not wait for "Joey" to die. Look at the facts and think now.

Joey not only source, there is plenty out there, have looked at it, feel its real, no sense to get bent out of shape, nor debunk it (Vandaler is a pro at that game, though only in politics, never in faith issues) nor go all Protty "bible alone" about end times.....

I think Garabandal is satanic, a kind of demonic mocking of the real Marian apparitions.l.

why? what evidence? are there doctrinal issues? statements made contra-doctrine?

Medjugorje-has been condemned by Bishop with authority in that area of world, also the carnival "miracles" are widely docuмented, as are the moral issues w/alelged "visionaires"