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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Vigano Responds To Traditionis Custodes
« Reply #65 on: August 05, 2021, 08:12:10 AM »
Quote from: Meg on August 05, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
Actually, Sedes are like the Jєωιѕн revolutionaries, because Sedes want to take over and make everyone believe as they do. They don't want any trad to not think like them; hence, they have been allowed to take over this forum. Sedeism and Modernism are just two sides of the same coin. Some will say that Modernism is worse, but I don't agree. Tradition is doomed, unless trads focus on what is important. Maybe there's a reason why God has allowed the Modernists to take over the church, and for the Sedes to take over Tradition. The Sedes will guarantee that Tradition will never return to the conciliar church.
I didn't know I was Jєωιѕн, that's news to me.

Maybe its because we simply think its wrong to proclaim a man as Pope but only pay lip-service to him, contrary to how literally every Catholic behaved toward the Pope up until the 1970s.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Vigano Responds To Traditionis Custodes
« Reply #66 on: August 05, 2021, 08:30:43 AM »
Quote from: Meg on August 05, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
Actually, Sedes are like the Jєωιѕн revolutionaries, because Sedes want to take over and make everyone believe as they do. They don't want any trad to not think like them; hence, they have been allowed to take over this forum. Sedeism and Modernism are just two sides of the same coin. Some will say that Modernism is worse, but I don't agree. Tradition is doomed, unless trads focus on what is important. Maybe there's a reason why God has allowed the Modernists to take over the church, and for the Sedes to take over Tradition. The Sedes will guarantee that Tradition will never return to the conciliar church.

Absolutely ridiculous.  Yes, there are dogmatic sedevacantists, but you are about as dogmatic an R&R as they come, and this is a classic case of pot and kettle.

As for sedevacantism being Modernism, actually sedevacantism holds the same principles or the same Major as the conservative Novus Ordites, that the Church cannot become as corrupt as R&R say it has and that we are required to remain in submission to and communion with a legitimate hierarchy.  It is in fact R&R who line up more with Modernism, in that both hold that they can reject the Magisterium in favor of their own interpretations of Catholic doctrine.
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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Vigano Responds To Traditionis Custodes
« Reply #67 on: August 05, 2021, 08:31:04 AM »
Quote from: Meg on August 05, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
Actually, Sedes are like the Jєωιѕн revolutionaries, because Sedes want to take over and make everyone believe as they do. They don't want any trad to not think like them; hence, they have been allowed to take over this forum. Sedeism and Modernism are just two sides of the same coin. Some will say that Modernism is worse, but I don't agree.

You do realize that the Catholic Church's mission is to convert the entire world, right?  Every Catholic SHOULD want all to believe as the Church teaches, for without supernatural faith it is impossible to please God.  Where this crisis is concerned, there is and should be a great deal of latitude granted to those with differing views.  Oddly, you are the one manifesting notable disgust and intolerance of those whose view is different from your own.

As for your characterization of SVs or equating SVism with Modernism, it does not line up with reality.  It is such a wild bunch of nonsense it is laughable.  

Have fun doing whatever ornery, miserable women do with their days.  :cowboy:
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Offline Hermes

Re: Vigano Responds To Traditionis Custodes
« Reply #68 on: August 05, 2021, 08:55:56 AM »
Quote from: Meg on August 05, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
Actually, Sedes are like the Jєωιѕн revolutionaries, because Sedes want to take over and make everyone believe as they do. They don't want any trad to not think like them; hence, they have been allowed to take over this forum. Sedeism and Modernism are just two sides of the same coin. Some will say that Modernism is worse, but I don't agree. Tradition is doomed, unless trads focus on what is important. Maybe there's a reason why God has allowed the Modernists to take over the church, and for the Sedes to take over Tradition. The Sedes will guarantee that Tradition will never return to the conciliar church.

Your comments are uncharitable, capricious, and sensationally malicious. If you truly think Sedevacantism is worse than modernism or that Sedevacantists are the reason that the Church is still in crisis then I think you are a person of unmistakable bad will.


I suggest you take your advice and focus on what’s important by cultivating some humility, knowledge, and respect.
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Offline Meg

Re: Vigano Responds To Traditionis Custodes
« Reply #69 on: August 05, 2021, 09:49:07 AM »
+Vigano says at the end of the video:

"....But in order for that to be repaired, it is necessary that we should show ourself to be worthy of the treasures that have been stolen from us. Let us try to do this by our holiness of life, by giving example of the virtues, by prayer and frequent reception of the sacrament(s)."


What does holiness of life and virtue mean to sedevacantists? Do they believe that the highest virtue is to proclaim that the See of Rome is vacant? It seems so. Can they get to Heaven upon this one supposed all-consuming virtue of theirs? 
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