I suggest that we focus less on the personal heresy of Bergoglio and more on the indefectibility of the Church.  It's impossible for a legitimate Pope to impose a harmful Rite of Mass on the faithful.  I'm not interested in solving the Bellarmine vs. Cajetan debate.  Since the Cajetan position has not been condemned by the Church, all R&R have to do is hold that opinion as tenable by Catholics.

You remind me of the parable regarding the laborers who toiled all day in the vineyard and then resented those who came at the 11th hour and got paid the same.  This is precisely the point of the parable, that everything either group received was due to the generosity of the Master, Who can choose do distribute His graces as He pleases.

I don't understand the contempt that many sedevacantists have for +Vigano; that's the kindof stuff that makes sedevacantism look bad to a lot of people.

A lot of Sedes on Twitter that I see hating on +Vigano etc are feds and NGO infiltrators, fullstop. You have to remember that the SPLC, ADL etc are actively trying to cause trouble for traditional Catholics. You notice a sort of "divide and conquer" strategy that "they" LOVE to employ being actively practiced in traditional circles, and this twofold benefits by splintering trads and preventing indulters/NOs from getting in.

A lot of Sedes on Twitter that I see hating on +Vigano etc are feds and NGO infiltrators, fullstop. You have to remember that the SPLC, ADL etc are actively trying to cause trouble for traditional Catholics. You notice a sort of "divide and conquer" strategy that "they" LOVE to employ being actively practiced in traditional circles, and this twofold benefits by splintering trads and preventing indulters/NOs from getting in.

I can believe this.  Maybe some even on this site.

Maybe the morning coffee hasn't quite kicked in yet, and maybe I'm still a little slow on the uptake right now, but I have no clue as to what this video is driving at.  Is it a defense of Pope Francis and TC, is it an attack, or is it just a neutral depiction of the scenario?

The source (akaCatholic.com) indicates that the producer is traditionalist, but still, the message here isn't clear (to me anyway).

Gotta love the accented, Italianate pronunciation of the Latin.  I normally pronounce foreign languages (to the extent I can speak them) in the accent proper to each --- my Spanish tutor was Cuban and he taught me a very orotund pronunciation of the vowels --- but as for Latin, I pronounce the terms in an American accent, as Latin has no accent proper to contemporary native speakers.  Do I err in so doing?
n the murk

I think Louie was giving the pretense of being neutral all the while stating  the undeniable facts that point to a non-catholic Pope. He is a step more Sede than the murky waters Vigano is wading through but the two are very close indeed.
  

To 2Vermont's point, if he is kicking the can down the road, it may mean that he knows he doesn't hold any Ordinary jurisdiction and meaningful condemnation must come from someone who does. 

This may in fact be what is going on, but that leads to the logical next question:  who does he think can and will make the condemnation for him?  Can anyone think of any Novus Ordo prelate that will do this? 

A lot of Sedes on Twitter that I see hating on +Vigano etc are feds and NGO infiltrators, fullstop. You have to remember that the SPLC, ADL etc are actively trying to cause trouble for traditional Catholics. You notice a sort of "divide and conquer" strategy that "they" LOVE to employ being actively practiced in traditional circles, and this twofold benefits by splintering trads and preventing indulters/NOs from getting in.

But why? Sede Trads are a small group, why do outsiders care about us? 

I have said this countless times over the years, as the REAL issue is and always has been the manifestly counterfeit church which all good Catholics avoid like the spiritual plague it is, not whether or not the latest Modernist stooge in white is or is not Catholic.

Sadly, most people (whether inside or outside Holy Church) are not very bright and will argue endlessly about meaningless minutiae, never addressing anything close to the central issue of whatever discussion is taking place.  How many economic discussions even touch upon the evils of usury, private creation of interest-bearing debt-money, etc?  

True that.
But the consiliar church is so ingrained ( understandably) into the fabric of the culture of  as well as the individual, that to break free of the "big lie" is an incremental situation for most. I think psychologically it has to be.
I have friends who will never make the break from the NO because they would have to admit that there is a possibility that their " daily communions " for the past 40 years may not have been legitimately transubstantiated . So they stay and double down- pride? I don't know.
 I know it is an overwhelming disaster for them and it takes great strength and great grace to accept it. After you do however, your mind is free to honestly address  and "see" all of the associated crimes perpetrated against humanity because of the evil consiliar church construct controlled by the judaics.

But why? Sede Trads are a small group, why do outsiders care about us?

Jєωιѕн organizations by their nature are in open rebellion against God, simple as.