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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Vigano on Benedict's Death?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2023, 05:38:15 PM »
Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 04, 2023, 05:27:05 PM
This is from 3 months ago.

It doesn't sound like opposition to Benedict to me:

"After the resignation of Benedict XVI and the electoral fraud of the American presidential elections, two figures of the katèchon were missing, the former a spiritual authority and the latter a temporal authority which could oppose the advent of the Antichrist."

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Maybe Vigano never read any of Benedict's books or saw his special mitres?


This is from 2 months ago, and its a complete indictment of Ratzinger, stopping just short of declaring him a heretic:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/abp-vigano-pope-emeritus-benedict-xvi-is-wrong-to-praise-the-diabolical-revolution-of-vatican-ii/

I gather Vigano has a much more profound understanding of the writings of Ratzinger than you do.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Vigano on Benedict's Death?
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2023, 05:51:16 PM »
Too much has been made of that term katèchon.  All it means is that it was a final barrier or impediment preventing the floodgates from opening.  Period.  It does not mean that either Ratzinger was some great defender of the faith (akin to St. Pius X), as the Bennyvacantists would have it, nor that Trump is the reincarnation of a sainted Catholic King.

It's more of an apocalyptic notion that there's a last barrier or impediment (even a passive one) holding back the deluge, where the floodgates opened with Bergoglio and Biden respectively, where after those two the evil was taken "to a new level".
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Offline Miser Peccator

Re: Vigano on Benedict's Death?
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2023, 06:07:04 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 04, 2023, 05:38:15 PM

This is from 2 months ago, and its a complete indictment of Ratzinger, stopping just short of declaring him a heretic:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/abp-vigano-pope-emeritus-benedict-xvi-is-wrong-to-praise-the-diabolical-revolution-of-vatican-ii/

I gather Vigano has a much more profound understanding of the writings of Ratzinger than you do.

I'm sure he does!  Yet he doesn't seem to be able to make up his mind. 

Does he believe Benedict was the Katechon holding back the Antichrist

or was he a heretic

and therefore an antichrist?

It's hard to tell.
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Offline Miser Peccator

Re: Vigano on Benedict's Death?
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2023, 06:14:08 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on January 04, 2023, 05:51:16 PM
Too much has been made of that term katèchon.  All it means is that it was a final barrier or impediment preventing the floodgates from opening.  Period.  It does not mean that either Ratzinger was some great defender of the faith (akin to St. Pius X), as the Bennyvacantists would have it, nor that Trump is the reincarnation of a sainted Catholic King.

It's more of an apocalyptic notion that there's a last barrier or impediment (even a passive one) holding back the deluge, where the floodgates opened with Bergoglio and Biden respectively, where after those two the evil was taken "to a new level".


St John made it clear and simple:

"This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son. 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father. He that confesseth the Son hath the Father also. "


Benedict XVI denied Christ---not just a long time ago and now he is "traditional".  He denied Christ while acting as pope.

It wasn't in an off the cuff statement on an airplane or a misquoted article by a reporter in a newspaper.

It's in his own book he wrote and published while still the active pope:


BENEDICT XVI PROMOTES THAT JєωS SHOULD NOT BE CONVERTED

Benedict XVI, Jesus of Nazareth – Holy Week: From the Entrance into Jerusalem to the Resurrection, 2011, p. 45: “Hildegard Brem comments on this passage as follows: ‘In the light of Romans 11:25, the Church must not concern herself with the conversion of the Jєωs, since she must wait for the time fixed for this by God, ‘until the full number of the Gentiles come in’ (Rom 11:25).”

Benedict XVI quotes approvingly from Hildegard Brem, who teaches that the Church should not convert Jєωs. Benedict XVI doesn’t contradict the teaching, but promotes it and agrees with it. This is complete and total apostasy. On the next page, he even expands upon the point. He declares that the Jєωs retain their own “mission.”

Benedict XVI, Jesus of Nazareth – Holy Week: From the Entrance into Jerusalem to the Resurrection, 2011, p. 46: “Moreover, we have seen that the nucleus of Jesus’ eschatological message includes the proclamation of an age of the nations, during which the Gospel must be brought to the whole world and to all people: only then can history attain its goal.

In the meantime, Israel retains its own mission. Israel is in the hands of God, who will save it ‘as a whole’ at the proper time, when the number of Gentiles is complete. The fact that that historical duration of this period cannot be calculated is self-evident and should not surprise us.”

According to him, the Jєωs don’t need to be converted because they retain their own mission and are “in the hands of God.” Of course, this is a denial of Jesus Christ, the Gospel, the Catholic faith, and many dogmas. That’s also why we saw him encourage the Chief Rabbi of Rome in his “mission.”

Benedict XVI, Address to Chief Rabbi of Rome, Jan. 16, 2006: “Distinguished Chief Rabbi, you were recently entrusted with the spiritual guidance of Rome’s Jєωιѕн Community; you have taken on this responsibility enriched by your experience as a scholar and a doctor who has shared in the joys and sufferings of a great many people. I offer you my heartfelt good wishes for your mission, and I assure you of my own and my collaborators’ cordial esteem and friendship.”



What exactly is their mission which Benedict supports?

Surely Vigano would have read Benedict's book he wrote while the active Pope wouldn't he?

So the question for Vigano, as I stated in that thread back in October,

is how can an antichrist

hold back the Antichrist?


Or more specifically, the Moshiach??

When he is supporting the mission to usher in the Moshiach?


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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Vigano on Benedict's Death?
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2023, 06:44:37 PM »
Does anyone have at hand the quote from Ratzinger's Jesus of Nazareth wherein he denigrated Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament because of the immanence of God?

For some reason I never archived that quote and I do not have (or want) his damned book.
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