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Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2023, 03:44:02 PM »
Who's eliminating what?  No one has the manpower (outside of perhaps the SSPX) to successfully make such a maneuver.  It sounds more like the Resistance are eliminating themselves because some of the faithful, who might otherwise be inclined toward a Resistance position and yet have (legitimate) concerns about the validity of NO Orders, are gravitating toward the sedevacantists.
Seems like Brazil is ahead of the curve.

Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2023, 03:47:26 PM »
Once the Resistance competition is eliminated, Sedevacantism can then prevail, and thus Tradition will prevail in Brazil. Would that be correct?

The entire forum knows that you Meg loathe and absolutely hate sedevacantism with every fiber of your being. It has become your raison d’etre for using this forum. I wonder at times if every cardinal and bishop in the world deckared a sede vacante if you wouldn’t jump off a bridge or just join another religion or whatever. But this, Meg, is not about being right. It’s not about my team wins and your team loses. If that’s what you need in your life watch the NFL or join a sports club. Or better yet, take on womanly activities and set aside your post-3rd wave feminist mindset. But don’t get on here talking trash about sedevacantism to people who you don’t even know what chapel they frequent. It’s nauseous and arrogant. 



Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2023, 03:49:30 PM »
I think that they are afraid to take positions that Sedevacantists are known for.

If they conditionally ordain everybody from the Novus Ordo, they might be accused of "practicing Sedevacantism", as some humorous posters put it.

It has lot to do with pride. These fellows seem to be very proud to be anti-Sedevacantists, even if they have to harm innumerous souls to show how tough they are.

Look how they proudly accuse everybody who questions the Novus Ordo ordinations of being Sedevacantists.

You cannot deny the truth just because you don't like the person who is saying it.

It is humiliating for the faithful when a bishop, of all people, act like an unbalanced and passionate woman, mixing emotion and faulty logic on a serious matter such as doubtful sacraments.
Well said! :incense: :pray:

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Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2023, 03:52:15 PM »
The entire forum knows that you Meg loathe and absolutely hate sedevacantism with every fiber of your being. It has become your raison d’etre for using this forum. I wonder at times if every cardinal and bishop in the world deckared a sede vacante if you wouldn’t jump off a bridge or just join another religion or whatever. But this, Meg, is not about being right. It’s not about my team wins and your team loses. If that’s what you need in your life watch the NFL or join a sports club. Or better yet, take on womanly activities and set aside your post-3rd wave feminist mindset. But don’t get on here talking trash about sedevacantism to people who you don’t even know what chapel they frequent. It’s nauseous and arrogant.

Actually, I don't hate it. I hate how SV's believe that they are better than anyone else. They act like the Elite Jews, who want world control. Well, go ahead and take over tradition. Good luck to you. Since the Resistance is allowed to die a slow death here, I'm going to give up on it too. You win. 

Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2023, 03:53:10 PM »
I was hoping someone else would take to the task of translating the video. I could have done it and put it in a big separate post about why the Holy Cross monastery now posing as a seminary is a bad thing for Tradition but that’s not really my motive, even though it should have been done. Bishop Thomas Aquinas performed my wedding. I was very close to him and the Brazilian resistance. I got a lot of criticism and what amounts to excommunication for supporting Bishop Rodrigo da Silva despite the Brazilian resistance, but I have very strong reasons for doing so.

I would just go on to say that there was definitely a need for a Brazilian bishop, so Bishop Williamson acted in good faith by consecrating and giving Brazil a bishop. There is a lot of story regarding Holy Cross monastery I would rather not get into, but it seems to be undermining the growth of Tradition in Brazil. Luckily, Bishop Williamson did recognize a stand up leader with a true missionary spirit at the Holy Cross monastery. Brother Miguel definitely stood out among the rest. For that reason he was sent to study in Avrille and later ordained by Bishop Williamson as Fr. Rodrigo da Silva. As fate would have it, he would cross paths in a South American airport with Bishop Dolan, who also immediately recognized this charisma and made him a bishop. Since then, Tradition in Brazil has been sustained.
God Bless Bp. Dolan RIP, he did so much good! Glad to hear that due to Bp. Rodrigo da Silva, tradition in Brazil has been sustained! Keep up the good fight Centroamerica! Prayers are with you :pray: