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Offline Persto

Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2023, 03:34:38 PM »
Quote from: Giovanni Berto on December 21, 2023, 12:40:22 PM
There is a text that was posted in the official website of Bp. Thomas Aquinas' monastery about this issue.

The text has almost exactly the same content of the video that Centroamerica briefed us on.

Here is a Google Translator version of the text: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-US&u=https://www.mosteirodasantacruz.org/post/em-defesa-do-pe-jahir-e-de-seu-sacerd%25C3%25B3cio&client=webapp

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Thank you for the translation!
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2023, 03:36:30 PM »
Quote from: Meg on December 21, 2023, 03:06:42 PM
Once the Resistance competition is eliminated, Sedevacantism can then prevail, and thus Tradition will prevail in Brazil. Would that be correct?

Who's eliminating what?  No one has the manpower (outside of perhaps the SSPX) to successfully make such a maneuver.  It sounds more like the Resistance are eliminating themselves because some of the faithful, who might otherwise be inclined toward a Resistance position and yet have (legitimate) concerns about the validity of NO Orders, are gravitating toward the sedevacantists.
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Offline Persto

Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2023, 03:38:17 PM »
Quote from: Giovanni Berto on December 21, 2023, 02:30:42 PM
I think that they are afraid to take positions that Sedevacantists are known for.

Look how they proudly accuse everybody who questions the Novus Ordo ordinations of being Sedevacantists.

You cannot deny the truth just because you don't like the person who is saying it.
Good post!
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Offline Giovanni Berto

Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2023, 03:39:03 PM »
Quote from: Meg on December 21, 2023, 03:06:42 PM
Once the Resistance competition is eliminated, Sedevacantism can then prevail, and thus Tradition will prevail in Brazil. Would that be correct?

Tradition prevails nowhere. It is always a minority.

Apparently, Bp. Thomas Aquinas attitude is favoring Sedevacantism, even though that is obviously not his intention.

In my opinion, it is more imporant that valid sacraments and solid preaching prevail. I won't bother to check the priest's affiliation.
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Offline Meg

Re: Vigano allegedly consecrated sub conditione
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2023, 03:43:43 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 21, 2023, 03:36:30 PM
Who's eliminating what?  No one has the manpower (outside of perhaps the SSPX) to successfully make such a maneuver.  It sounds more like the Resistance are eliminating themselves because some of the faithful, who might otherwise be inclined toward a Resistance position and yet have (legitimate) concerns about the validity of NO Orders, are gravitating toward the sedevacantists.

Right, the Resistance is eliminating itself. Well, that certainly is true for this forum, too. Those who support the Resistance are quite few here. 
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