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Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
« on: October 02, 2009, 02:44:41 AM »
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  • I somehow found myself sucked in to this 80's "debate" (more like stacked deck gang up on the priest).

    The host is extremely annoying. Probably an ex-catholic.


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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 04:31:07 AM »
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  • They're all Protestants.  One of them just doesn't know it.


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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 04:45:01 AM »
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  • You shouldn't judge a Catholic priest like that. He is obviously not a Protestant.

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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 09:15:24 AM »
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  • What does this have to do with the "Crisis in the Church"?
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 09:59:32 AM »
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    I somehow found myself sucked in to this 80's "debate" (more like stacked deck gang up on the priest).

    The host is extremely annoying. Probably an ex-catholic.


    Who is the priest? Prot? cannot pull up youtube at work, it is blocked....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 05:04:38 PM »
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    What does this have to do with the "Crisis in the Church"?


    You're right. I guess I put it in the wrong category.

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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #6 on: October 03, 2009, 06:46:03 AM »
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  • Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    What does this have to do with the "Crisis in the Church"?


    It reveals the heretical theology of the false Church at least.

    "Trents anathemas only apply to those who know, understand what we say, and say yes that's true and then don't do it."!!!!!!!!

    So if you don't BELIEVE you're a heretic... You're not a heretic!

    Hooray!

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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #7 on: October 03, 2009, 08:57:24 AM »
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  • It's called the Catholic teaching on invincible ignorance found in Pre-VCII Catechisms. Oh, I forgot, those are heretical...



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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #8 on: October 03, 2009, 09:04:32 AM »
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    It reveals the heretical theology of the false Church at least.


    Perhaps, but as I do not have functioning speakers at the moment, I cannot say either way.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    Video: Catholic/ Prot Penance Debate
    « Reply #9 on: October 03, 2009, 04:46:22 PM »
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    It's called the Catholic teaching on invincible ignorance found in Pre-VCII Catechisms. Oh, I forgot, those are heretical...



    You and your invincible ignorance.  What about pre-1900s popes?  Do they mean anything to you?

    Quote from: Pope Gregory XVI, in Mirari Vos,
    Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. Surely, in so clear a matter, you will drive this deadly error far from the people committed to your care. With the admonition of the apostle that "there is one God, one faith, one baptism" may those fear who contrive the notion that the safe harbor of salvation is open to persons of any religion whatever. They should consider the testimony of Christ Himself that "those who are not with Christ are against Him," and that they disperse unhappily who do not gather with Him. Therefore "without a doubt, they will perish forever, unless they hold the Catholic faith whole and inviolate." Let them hear Jerome who, while the Church was torn into three parts by schism, tells us that whenever someone tried to persuade him to join his group he always exclaimed: "He who is for the See of Peter is for me." A schismatic flatters himself falsely if he asserts that he, too, has been washed in the waters of regeneration. Indeed Augustine would reply to such a man: "The branch has the same form when it has been cut off from the vine; but of what profit for it is the form, if it does not live from the root?"