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Offline Traditional

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Very Sad Anniversary Approaching
« on: April 26, 2012, 07:03:21 AM »
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  • How sad is this? Letter from Cardinal George will appear in April 29th bulletin. Read and weep!


    "Reflections on the Fiftieth Anniversary of the
    Second Vatican Council by Cardinal George OMI
    Dear Sisters and Brothers in Christ:
    This coming October 11, the Church will mark the fiftieth anniversary of the opening session of
    Vatican Council II. This great Council was the most significant Catholic event of the last century, and
    its deliberations and decrees will continue to influence the Church, as have the acts of ecuмenical councils
    before it. The creed we say at Mass each Sunday, for example, comes from the earliest Councils of
    the Church in the fourth and fifth centuries. Vatican II was the twenty first Ecuмenical Council of the
    Catholic Church.
    Why did Pope John XXIII call the Council? In a letter dated December 25, 1961 (Humanae salutis),
    the Pope explained that he hoped the Council would change the relationship between the Church
    and the world. He called the Council because the world of the twentieth century was so divided by racism,
    nationalism, communism, nαzιsm and wars and hatreds of all sorts that men and women had forgotten
    that the human race is a human family. Who would tell the world that we are all brothers and
    sisters? Pope John knew that the mission of the Catholic Church is to introduce the world to its savior
    in every age, and he believed that the unity of the Church should be a leaven to change the world. The
    Second Vatican Council was called a pastoral council because its purpose was not to examine Church
    teaching directly but to see what could be changed in the Church in order to place her in better dialogue
    with a world headed for self-destruction. The Council was missionary in its purpose; to save the world
    from itself, the Church would have to open dialogues on all fronts.
    In order to enter into dialogue, elements of the Church’s life were examined and sometimes
    changed or adjusted. The Council’s major docuмents examined the Church’s worship of God, the
    sources of God’s self-revelation, the nature of the Church herself and the Church in our times. Each of
    these four topics will be discussed in future bulletin articles. My hope is that recalling the purpose and
    the teaching of the Second Vatican Council will renew the sense of mission of the Archdiocese in the
    coming year. We will continue to implement the Strategic Pastoral Plan for the Archdiocese and will do
    so now in light of the universal Church’s Year of Faith, recently called by Pope Benedict XVI, timed to
    begin on the very anniversary of the opening session of the Council. May our hearts be opened anew as
    we commemorate this great event in the history of the Church. God bless you.
    Sincerely yours in Christ,
    Francis Cardinal George, OMI
    Archbishop of Chicago"

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    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    « Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 09:04:13 AM »
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  • Let's take the cardinal up on his challenge.

    Just what was the teaching of Vatican II?



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    « Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 09:10:09 AM »
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  • And, furthermore, why did the church feel a need to change itself?  That's what changing your relationship with the world really means.  

    If I approach a person who is a subordinate and I approach them to tell them to do something then we have a relationship that is based on boss/employee.  A Catholic has a similar obligation to tell people that living in sin (or the whole compendium of sins) is wrong and to stop engaging in this behavior.  These are relationship templates.

    So, to change them means what?  The boss then approaches the employee with suggestions?  That's actually ok because the boss/employee relationship is temporary and based on an economic agreement.  

    The Roman Catholic Church, however, has a Godly mission and to change it is to degrade it.  That sounds harsh, but it's true especially with the outright deception of Vatican II.  

    It's a sad anniversary all right.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 03:07:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: Traditional
    This great Council was the most significant Catholic event of the last century, and its deliberations and decrees will continue to influence the Church


    In other words, forget about returning to tradition.

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    The Second Vatican Council was called a pastoral council because its purpose was not to examine Church teaching directly but to see what could be changed in the Church in order to place her in better dialogue with a world headed for self-destruction.


    Now the Novus Ordites can no longer argue about it.  It was pastoral and about changing the Church.  Please make this a flyer and put it on every car windshield at your local NO Parish.


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    In order to enter into dialogue, elements of the Church’s life were examined and sometimes changed or adjusted.


    There it is again---certain elements were changed or adjusted so we could talk to nαzιs, feminists, Protestants, communists, etc.  Nothing ambiguous there.

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    May our hearts be opened anew as we commemorate this great event in the history of the Church. God bless you.


    Our Lady of Fatima, ora pro nobis.

    Offline Clelia

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    « Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 05:46:39 PM »
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    Just what was the teaching of Vatican II?


     :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:
    Leaving the Boyz Club of little popes. SWAK.


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    « Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 06:46:00 PM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    Just what was the teaching of Vatican II?


    "Can't we all just get along?"

    It was truly an adulterous council.

    "Adulterers, know you not that the friendship of this world is the enemy of God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of this world, becometh an enemy of God."

    -James 4:4
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