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VCII Saved Church From Full Effects of Humanae Vitae
« on: September 21, 2011, 12:53:01 PM »
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    Humanae Vitae at 40 years
     July 25, 2008

    As we roll through 2008, the press is filled with 40-year anniversary stories. 1968 was a tumultuous year; some say it was a year that helped define America for years to come.
     
    The baby boomers recall vividly the Vietnam War Tet offensive in January; the April assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.; the Paris Peace talks and riots in May; the June assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy; and the August protest riots in Chicago at the Democratic convention among nation-shaping events that year.
     
    Catholics might recall another 1968 defining moment, the July 29 encyclical called Humanae Vitae, literally “Of Human Life.” The encyclical was a sensitively written expression about the sanctity of marital love and the need to nurture life in marriage. But whatever else it stated, it has been remembered for only one thing: the upholding of the Catholic church’s ban on birth control.
     
    The encyclical upheld Pope Pius XII’s support of the rhythm method (now called natural family planning) and in doing so, revealed its particular understanding of natural law. Its reasoning, theologians say, rested on the physiological structure of the act of intercourse while largely discounting the larger context of human love and family life.
     
    Less than a decade after the encyclical’s promulgation, polls showed it was overwhelmingly rejected by Catholics. Eight out of 10 adult U.S. Catholics simply disregarded it. While bishops were largely upholding the docuмent, many priests in pastoral settings, including confessionals, were saying it was a matter for individual conscience.
     
    By any measure, a gulf between official church teachings and Catholic practice had begun to grow and was to continue to grow and to permeate a host of other Catholic teachings on sɛҳuąƖity and morality from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity to the use of condoms in the fight against the HIV virus. The right of women to have special say in reproduction, then an almost exclusively male terrain, was soon added to the list.
     
    In the four decades since the encyclical was promulgated, the church hierarchy, fully recognizing Catholic lay resistance to the strongly stated ban on the use of birth control, dug in. Pope John Paul II affirmed Humanae Vitae as a pillar of Catholic morality -- as well as a pillar of papal authority.
     
    Meanwhile, Catholic lay confidence in the institution was eroding by the year.
     
    Torn between following the advice of a partially lay pontifical commission, created to assess the birth control issue, a commission that eventually supported changes in church teaching, and his desire to remain consistent with earlier papal declarations, Pope Paul VI chose the later course. The need to assert church authority persuaded him.
     
    After all, he reasoned, how could the Holy Spirit have allowed the church to be wrong for so many years on an issue of such importance? His decision, in the end, was more indicative of church hierarchical dysfunction -- the institution’s inability to look at matters, particularly sɛҳuąƖity, in light of new understandings and insights -- than it was seemingly of any movement of the Holy Spirit.
     
    Research conducted by sociologist Fr. Andrew M. Greeley found that the encyclical so shook Catholics that by itself, it would have reduced religious practice by almost one-half. That decline never fully occurred, and the reason it did not, Greeley found, was the favorable impact the Second Vatican Council was having on the lives of most Catholics.
     
    Repeated U.S. surveys find that Catholics regard church teachings on sɛҳuąƖ morality increasingly out of sync with their lived experience and their understanding of love and intimacy. They knew and still know that sex between husband and wife is capable of creating far more than new humans. They also know their gαy sons and daughters are not disordered. The surveys have confirmed Rome’s worst fears, causing at times even more thunderous condemnations that have failed to win many converts. So the cycle of dysfunction and disbelief continues.
     
    National Catholic Reporter July 25, 2008


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    « Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 12:58:54 PM »
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    Research conducted by sociologist Fr. Andrew M. Greeley found that the encyclical so shook Catholics that by itself, it would have reduced religious practice by almost one-half. That decline never fully occurred, and the reason it did not, Greeley found, was the favorable impact the Second Vatican Council was having on the lives of most Catholics.


    The propaganda never ends.  How about cutting the next generation in half?  What does that do to Catholic practice/

    As it stands Vatican II and the committee that was appointed to "study" the question of poisons of sterility like the birth control pill have reduced Catholic practice by 95% at least.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 10:44:16 PM »
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  • Anyone who thinks that the NCR and Andrew Greeley are representative of the official Church or an indication of where the Church is headed need to look at how irrelevant outside of the elite both have become. The average age of NCR readers is over 65 (Their own numbers).

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    « Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 11:26:53 PM »
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    Anyone who thinks that the NCR and Andrew Greeley are representative of the official Church or an indication of where the Church is headed need to look at how irrelevant outside of the elite both have become. The average age of NCR readers is over 65 (Their own numbers).

    It can't die soon enough.


    Yet Fr. Andrew Greely, Fr. Richard McBrien, and the rest of the NCR crew are in "full communion" with the official Church, are they not?

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    « Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 12:43:30 AM »
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  • The ringleaders of this revolution really are old men, and they are old hat.  They come off as about as relevant as Fleetwood Mac or Jefferson Starship.  Whatever momentum Vatican II had, whatever appeal it had to the rebellious Catholics of the 60's or 70's, is almost all gone, despite feeble attempts to enliven it like World Youth Day.  This generation will not take to Vatican II like the hippie generation did.  That's why I always talk about the distinct 60's hippie New-Agey feeling of many Vatican II chapels.  There is something very hippie about the whole thing, and it is about as up-to-date as the hairy hippies are, which is to say, not very.

    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 07:05:43 AM »
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    The ringleaders of this revolution really are old men, and they are old hat.  They come off as about as relevant as Fleetwood Mac or Jefferson Starship.  Whatever momentum Vatican II had, whatever appeal it had to the rebellious Catholics of the 60's or 70's, is almost all gone, despite feeble attempts to enliven it like World Youth Day.  This generation will not take to Vatican II like the hippie generation did.  That's why I always talk about the distinct 60's hippie New-Agey feeling of many Vatican II chapels.  There is something very hippie about the whole thing, and it is about as up-to-date as the hairy hippies are, which is to say, not very.



    The revolutionaries aren't just old men who are dying off so that all will be wine and roses after they depart the earth.  They have been, for the most part, very successful and the vast majority of Conciliar catholics today according to their doctrines and believe they are authentic teaching.  Because those are easy doctrines, they have no interest in learning the truth.

    While it is true that the vast majority of Conciliar catholics want reverence in liturgical services and despise many of the more outrageous abuses, they revel in "smells and bells" of some of the traditional trappings they still see in the movies while living in the carefree religion of Conciliarism.

    The aged priests and nuns are fewer and fewer and are less often invited to be the spokesmen of the revolution, especially on television as no amount of makeup can make them look presentable to a public that craves physical attractiveness over any spiritual good.  Thus, a younger generation of priests have become the official spokesmen of Conciliarism.  Men who look...well, I think the term is "metro sɛҳuąƖ"...and coat their new religion in traditional sounding words and phrases yet teach the Freemason religious indifferentism of Vatican II and the Conciliar religion.

    The revolution is continuing unabated in Conciliar circles.  The newer revolutionaries have changed the language of the revolution but not the revolutionary religion.  They've seen that the New Age is a dead end for most people though they allow it to continue in its ghetto for those who love the kind of pentacostalism it provides.  They have also allowed "tradition" to flourish within its ghetto and they are trying to entice the SSPX into that ghetto.  And as far as the revolutionaries are concerned, all those ghettos can have a place at the table of Conciliarism.