Author Topic: VCII Priest Spends 40 Years as Amazon Missionary, Baptizes Nobody (Read 1203 times)

stevusmagnus · « **on:** February 24, 2012, 07:45:34 AM »

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/02/anti-xavier-in-40-years-in-rainforest.html

The Anti-Xavier:
in 40 years in the rainforest, "not a single" baptism

Different styles of life and multiple scales of values arise from the diverse manner of using things, of laboring, of expressing oneself, of practicing religion, of forming customs, of establishing laws and juridic institutions, of cultivating the sciences, the arts and beauty. Thus the customs handed down to it form the patrimony proper to each human community.
Gaudium et spes, 53
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From Vatican Insider (in Spanish):
In the Amazon, in the service of man

At 90, the Consolata Missionary Silvano Sabatini, who spent 40 years with the indigenous people of the Brazilian Amazon, has much to tell: about his "'rebellious' life on the edge," about his brave, stimulating, destabilizing "being with the Other," about the meaning of Mission, with all its tensions, contradictions, and complexities (in a moment in which the rethinking of the missionary activity of the Church seems very urgent and current).

All that is in the book-testimony "The Anthropologist Priest. Amidst the indigenous people of the Amazon" (Ediesse, Roma 2011), written in collaboration with anthropologist Silvia Zaccaria, dedicated for several years to her field research with the indigenous people of the Brazilian Amazon.
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It is a project with a radical view of the evangelization that expresses itself in a unique way: "We do not baptize any Yanomani - Sabatini says - because we are convinced that it would make no sense to baptize a person outside the community, and that it is the culture that should be evangelized: man has the right to have his culture, and he must find in it the way to express himself christianly. Baptizing outside the community would have meant establishing a double personality in Baptism." Which is why, Zaccaria says, "Sabatini responded thus that monsignor anxious to know how many Yanomami he had baptized: 'not a single one, thanks to the Good God.' "

Satanic.

(Tip: Infocatólica, via La Cigüeña)

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2012, 07:54:25 AM »

Also, from a 2008 article in NCR by John Allen...

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To take one example, in a Feb. 10 interview with three Jesuits, Nicolás [Superior General of the Jesuits] said that he admired the later St. Francis Xavier -- not the ardent missionary of Xavier’s early years, but the Xavier who later developed deep respect for Asian cultures. Nicolás told a story of how Xavier once went to Fukoka, Japan, to scold a morally lax Buddhist monk. What impressed Nicolás is that Xavier went not to tell the monk he should become a Christian, but rather to be a better Buddhist.

Oremus · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2012, 11:57:57 AM »

It has to be diabolical. I don't know how someone in their right mind can proudly justify reasons for not baptizing those in need.

Sigismund · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2012, 02:01:36 PM »

I don't know that it has to be diabolical, although it certainly may be. It could just be really idiotic.

It could be both, of course. They are hardly mutually exclusive categories.

Caraffa · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2012, 04:23:35 PM »

It wouldn't be wrong not baptize because there is real doubt that the person is converted, but this priest has not baptized anyone because he doesn't believe himself. Based on his statements, he buys into Vatican II's promotion of inculturation as well as Liberation theology's misplaced notion of "communal salvation." He has forgotten Our Lords words that his gospel will end up dividing families and cultures, not unite them.

Darcy · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2012, 10:33:51 PM »

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All that is in the book-testimony "The Anthropologist Priest. Amidst the indigenous people of the Amazon" (Ediesse, Roma 2011), written in collaboration with anthropologist Silvia Zaccaria, dedicated for several years to her field research with the indigenous people of the Brazilian Amazon.

Hellooo....well that's what he was doing there. "Writing a book" with a female anthropologist. :rolleyes:

Canute · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:26:59 AM »

Archbishop Lefebvre said that when he was Superior General of the Holy Ghost missionaries, his priests told him they didn't know what the purpose of their work was anymore after Vatican II, now that they weren't supposed to convert people. They had lost their "raison d'etre" (reason for existing) as missionaries.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2012, 03:14:08 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Also, from a 2008 article in NCR by John Allen...

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To take one example, in a Feb. 10 interview with three Jesuits, Nicolás [Superior General of the Jesuits] said that he admired the later St. Francis Xavier -- not the ardent missionary of Xavier’s early years, but the Xavier who later developed deep respect for Asian cultures. Nicolás told a story of how Xavier once went to Fukoka, Japan, to scold a morally lax Buddhist monk. What impressed Nicolás is that Xavier went not to tell the monk he should become a Christian, but rather to be a better Buddhist.

This may be fair or unfair, and perhaps I'm just being a little too imprudent, but I'm beginning to feel "suspicion" toward the saints that the VII conciliarists are "celebrating".