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« on: May 25, 2012, 11:27:29 PM »
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  • I looked for a thread on this, but haven't seen one. I've not heard of this alleged leak of personal letters and documents stolen from Benedict XI's desk. It alleges "highly embarrassing" proof of corruption and conflict within the Church. Thoughts?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18216766

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    « Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 02:30:27 PM »
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    « Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 06:30:08 AM »
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    « Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 12:52:52 PM »
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    Following your link provides very sketchy coverage.

    What are the leaks, really?

    Is this the accused butler, in front of Benedict?

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    « Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 01:07:31 PM »
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    Following your link provides very sketchy coverage.

    What are the leaks, really?

    Is this the accused butler, in front of Benedict?

    Well, by all means he looks very suspicious.

    ... wait, actually both do!  :scratchchin:


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    « Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 01:15:33 PM »
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    My thoughts are about how unreliable major news outlets are, so we get some bit.  I would love to know what the real story is, because I have always loved mysteries.

    If anyone had good information about The Butler, how he got so close to the Vatican inner circle, we could perhaps speculate.  It's going to be one of those frustrating mysteries that we will never know the truth of, IMO.

    Like the Swiss Guard murders.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 01:16:17 PM »
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    Well, by all means he looks very suspicious.

    ... wait, actually both do!  :scratchchin:


     :laugh1:

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    « Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 01:56:50 PM »
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    Following your link provides very sketchy coverage.

    What are the leaks, really?

    Is this the accused butler, in front of Benedict?



    The story is all over the web now, should be more facts. That is the butler. The leaks are personal letters of Benedict's "highly embarrassing" letters that allegedly prove massive corruption and conflict within the Church. (One example given in the linked article was the awarding of Vatican contracts to businesses based on sketchy deals or something). Conflict in the Church- well, we all know what that's about probably, but could be more than the SSPX-VII conflict. I know there are NO priests and bishops the world over who are opposed to VII and to the Jewish and Communist, Masonic infiltration of our Church. Anyways, like I said, the story is everywhere now (I guess I stumbled onto the breaking story) and should be more info on teh googles.


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    « Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 01:58:43 PM »
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  • Those are Roman pine trees in the background, and in front of that are the statues on the facade of St. Peter's Square at the Vatican. I can identify those things. But I have no idea to whom the smug face belongs, in the foreground.


    If he's the butler, what in the world is he doing riding with the Pope through St. Peter's square? Isn't that a place for a security guard or something like that?
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    « Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 02:33:03 PM »
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  • Too bad he didn't scan and distribute the Third Secret!

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    « Reply #10 on: May 30, 2012, 02:33:55 PM »
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    Too bad he didn't scan and distribute the Third Secret!
    :cheers:
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