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Offline TKGS

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CATHOLICS AND LUTHERANS: CLOSER WITNESS TO THE GOSPEL
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 02:44:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: Roman Catholic
    Quote from: Belloc
    "These bishops constantly ordain to the priesthood men who have no preparation or training, who belong to no religious community, and who are consequently entirely independent of one another and all Church authority"

    biggest issue I have with Thuc lineage.notsaying naything mean about Thuc, nor the men either, but the whole process, preparation,etc is questionable......


    The statement quoted is not accurate.

    This is:

    SOME of those bishops ordain to the priesthood men who have no preparation or training, who belong to no religious community, and who are consequently entirely independent of one another and all Church authority.

    Some Thuc Bishops are very careful to only ordain suitable candidates who have been seminary trained.


    RomanCatholic is absolutely right here.  I might even suggest that many of the Thuc-line bishops have been irresponsible about whom they have ordained (and consecrated).  

    On the other hand, I would also have to say that most, if not nearly all (and perhaps all), Conciliar bishops have been extremely irresponsible about whom they have ordained and consecrated.  It seems that the last thing on the Conciliar Catholic bishops' minds is whether candidates are suitable OR trained in anything Catholic.


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    CATHOLICS AND LUTHERANS: CLOSER WITNESS TO THE GOSPEL
    « Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 03:30:30 PM »
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    Fr. Scott..

    http://www.sspx.org/Catholic_FAQs/catholic_faqs__canonical.htm#thucline

    However, even were there no doubt at all as to validity, it would still not be permissible to assist at the Masses and receive the sacraments from priests of the Thuc line. For they all hold to the radical sedevacantist position that there is no pope, and that if anybody says that there is a pope, or that he is in communion with the Holy Father, then he is in communion with a heretic and a heretic himself. By maintaining such a position, which makes no distinctions, and takes no account of the confusion in the Church due to the breakdown of authority, they not only condemn every other Catholic to hell fire, but effectively separate themselves off from all other Catholics, and make themselves into a church of their own. They are truly schismatic. It is consequently entirely illicit to have any kind of association with them. As a consequence of their loss of the sense of the Church, they abandon all sense of hierarchy and structure in the Church. Any bishop can consecrate any other bishop at any time, without authority between them. These bishops constantly ordain to the priesthood men who have no preparation or training, who belong to no religious community, and who are consequently entirely independent of one another and all Church authority. Throwing all canonical norms out of the window, they effectively become just as protestant as the modernists they pretend to defend the Church against.


    Dear Father Scott did time in Cincinnati, which will explain the passion with which he writes this bit.   :laugh1:



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    « Reply #17 on: December 21, 2010, 06:29:44 AM »
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  • His passion aside; what he wrote is innaccurate.