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Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell
« on: May 10, 2017, 09:20:09 AM »
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    La Republica, February 5, 1993
    EcuмENISM : POPE DIALOGUES WITH VOODOO SUPREME HIGH "PRIEST"GUEDEGUE
     
    "Two monarchs, head to head, "One is John Paul II, the true Pope, head of the universal Catholic Church .... who traveled from the Vatican to Africa. The other is the 'high priest' Guedegue, the supreme head of Voodoo, which in Benin counts a quarter of the population, and the one who represents the spiritual point of reference for all the followers of the world of that religion of the Devil.
     
    "At the meeting with the Pontiff, Guedegue was accompanied by a hundred 'priests' all proudly garbed in traditional 'vestments' and with their faces marked by long scars - a vestige of their initiations into the voodoo cult. The Pope received them with great respect and did not lose the opportunity to talk about dialogue, constructive relationships, and religious liberty."
     
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    JPII Praises Voodoo Worship
     
    Meeting with Guedegue of Benin, the Supreme Voodoo high-priest of the World, on February 4, 1993 during his visit to Benin, John Paul II gives the rationale to justify voodoo worship according to the principles of Vatican II.
     
    From:  John Paul II, Greeting to a Voodoo high-priest of Benin, published under the title "La libertà religiosa è un diritto inalienabile," in L'Osservatore Romano, February 6, 1993, p. 4: 
     
     
    Dear friends,
    I am pleased to have this occasion to meet you, and I very cordially greet you. As you know, I came to Benin principally to visit with the Catholic community, to encourage it and confirm it in the faith. However, I have always thought that contact with persons who belong to other religious traditions is an important part of my ministry.
     
    Indeed, the Catholic Church is favorable to dialogue: dialogue with Christians of other churches and ecclesial communities, dialogue with believers of other spiritual families, and dialogue even with those who do not profess any religion. The Church establishes positive and constructive relations with persons and human groups of other creeds for a reciprocal enrichment.
     
    Vatican Council II …. recognized that there are truth and good, seeds of the Word, in the various religious traditions. …
    These provide the foundations for a fruitful dialogue, as the Apostle Paul said to the first Christians: “Everything that is true, noble, just, pure, amiable, honorable, whatever is virtuous and deserves praise, let all these things be the object of your thinking.” From this comes our approach of respect [toward you]: respect for true values wherever they are, and overall respect for the man who looks to live these values that help him set aside fear.
     
    You are strongly attached to the traditions which your ancestors transmitted to you. It is legitimate to recognize the ancestors who transmitted to you the sense of the sacral, faith in a one and good god, your tastes for celebrations, and consideration for moral life and harmony in society.
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    La Docuмentation Catholique, Dec. 7, 1986.
     

    Voodoo priests were among the guests of John Paul II at the panreligious meeting of Assisi. They were accorded the same treatment as the other confessions and were given a place to carry out their worship.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell
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    • Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell

    Assisting adulterers, aberrosɛҳuąƖs, and all sinners:

    – “At times, persisting in the mortal sins of adultery and fornication is the most generous response which can be given to God.” (Amoris Laetitia 303)
     
     – “At times, God Himself asks us to persist in the mortal sins of adultery and fornication.” (Amoris Laetitia 303)

    303. Recognizing the influence of such concrete factors, we can add that individual conscience needs to be better incorporated into the Church’s praxis in certain situations which do not objectively embody our understanding of marriage. Naturally, every effort should be made to encourage the development of an enlightened conscience, formed and guided by the responsible and serious discernment of one’s pastor, and to encourage an ever greater trust in God’s grace. Yet conscience can do more than recognize that a given situation does not correspond objectively to the overall demands of the Gospel. It can also recognize with sincerity and honesty what for now is the most generous response which can be given to God, and come to see with a certain moral security that it is what God himself is asking amid the concrete complexity of one’s limits, while yet not fully the objective ideal. In any event, let us recall that this discernment is dynamic; it must remain ever open to new stages of growth and to new decisions which can enable the ideal to be more fully realized.

    Assisting Jєωs:

    Benedict XVI, God and the World, 2000, pages 150-151: “…their [the Jєωs] No to Christ brings the Israelites into conflict with the subsequent acts of God, but at the same time we know that they are assured of the faithfulness of God.  They are not excluded from salvation…”

    Benedict XVI, God and the World, 2000, p. 209: “It is of course possible to read the Old Testament so that it is not directed toward Christ; it does not point quite unequivocally to Christ.  And if Jєωs cannot see the promises as being fulfilled in him, this is not just ill will on their part, but genuinely because of the obscurity of the texts…  There are perfectly good reasons, then, for denying that the Old Testament refers to Christ and for saying, No, that is not what he said.  And there are also good reasons for referring it to him – that is what the dispute between Jєωs and Christians is about.”

    Assisting Heretics and Schismatics:

    Benedict XVI, Principles of Catholic Theology, 1982, pp. 197-198: “Against this background we can now weigh the possibilities that are open to Christian ecuмenism.  The maximum demands on which the search for unity must certainly founder are immediately clear.  On the part of the West, the maximum demand would be that the East recognize the primacy of the bishop of Rome in the full scope of the definition of 1870 and in so doing submit in practice, to a primacy such as has been accepted by the Uniate churches.  On the part of the East, the maximum demand would be that the West declare the 1870 doctrine of primacy erroneous and in so doing submit, in practice, to a primacy such as has been accepted with the removal of the Filioque from the Creed and including the Marian dogmas of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.  As regards Protestantism, the maximum demand of the Catholic Church would be that the Protestant ecclesiological ministers be regarded as totally invalid and that Protestants be converted to Catholicism; the maximum demand of Protestants, on the other hand, would be that the Catholic Church accept, along with the unconditional acknowledgement of all Protestant ministries, the Protestant concept of ministry and their understanding of the Church and thus, in practice, renounce the apostolic and sacramental structure of the Church, which would mean, in practice, the conversion of Catholics to Protestantism and their acceptance of a multiplicity of distinct community structures as the historical form of the Church.  While the first three maximum demands are today rather unanimously rejected by Christian consciousness, the fourth exercises a kind of fascination for it – as it were, a certain conclusiveness that makes it appear to be the real solution to the problem.  This is all the more true since there is joined to it the expectation that a Parliament of Churches, a ‘truly ecuмenical council’, could then harmonize this pluralism and promote a Christian unity of action.  That no real union would result from this, but that its very impossibility would become a single common dogma, should convince anyone who examines the suggestion closely that such a way would not bring Church unity but only a final renunciation of it.  As a result, none of the maximum solutions offers any real hope of unity.”

    Assisting Mohammedans:
    Benedict XVI, General Audience, Sept. 20, 2006: “I hope that in the various circuмstances during my Visit – for example, when in Munich I emphasized how important it is to respect what is sacred to others – that my deep respect for the great religions, and especially the Muslims, who ‘worship God…’ appeared quite clear!”

    Benedict XVI, Address, Dec. 22, 2006: “My visit to Turkey afforded me the opportunity to show also publicly my respect for the Islamic Religion, a respect, moreover, which the Second Vatican Council (declaration Nostra Aetate #3) pointed out to us as an attitude that is only right.”
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    Re: Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell
    « Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 11:26:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on May 10, 2017, 09:32:06 AM
    Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell

    Assisting adulterers, aberrosɛҳuąƖs, and all sinners:

    – “At times, persisting in the mortal sins of adultery and fornication is the most generous response which can be given to God.” (Amoris Laetitia 303)
     
     – “At times, God Himself asks us to persist in the mortal sins of adultery and fornication.” (Amoris Laetitia 303)
    These two quotes are NOT actually quotes from AL 303 so quotation marks should not be used.  True, you interpretation does reflect a practical application of what was actually written, but since it is not truly a quote it may lead others to doubt the accuracy any other quotes you post.
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    Re: Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell
    « Reply #3 on: May 11, 2017, 04:14:08 AM »
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    • The OP article above pre-dates the canonization of JPII. For his work in assisting souls to hell, John Paul II is now Saint John Paul II the Great.

    "For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect." Mat 24:24 
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    Re: Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell
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    • some nonCatholics seem to be doing better in the serving Jesus Dept. t han Catholics (so called)
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    Re: Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell
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    • Quote from: rosary93 on May 11, 2017, 02:59:19 PM
    some nonCatholics seem to be doing better in the serving Jesus Dept. t han Catholics (so called)
    What do you mean?  What is serving Jesus Dept. t han Catholics (so called)
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    Re: Vatican II church Popes Assist Souls to Hell
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    • The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    10 And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  11 Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: 12 That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity. (2 Thes 2)
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