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Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
« on: February 23, 2021, 04:59:02 PM »
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    Archbishop Arthur Roche, the anti-Catholic Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, who has been sidelining now retired Cardinal Sarah, has launched an attack on the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM).

    UnaVoceScotland.org (February 21) published the English translation of a February 19, 2020 essay written by Roche which was forwarded to all bishops.

    The essay makes the unlikely claim that the New Mass is an "authentic development" of the Roman Rite, and calls its implementation an "ecclesiastical duty" - although nobody follows the Novus Ordo which is only used as an excuse for empty liturgical experiments.

    Roche tells the joke that the Novus Ordo contains “more sacrificial vocabulary than was the case in the 1570 Missal” while the TLM needed to be stripped of alleged "repetitions" and "accretions.”

    He believes that the introduction of the Novus Ordo was necessary due to the reception of the "theological content" of Vatican II which was aware of "a world that had changed.” However, Vatican II was only a pastoral council, and the "world that had changed" had little use for the Novus Ordo.

    Roche criticises a solely "clerical vision" of the liturgy, in which the "clergy alone" are active and the faithful "passive" and where the “priest alone" celebrates. This reflects nicely the Novus Ordo reality, e.g. funerals and weddings, were the priest talks to himself because the audience doesn't even know the most basic liturgical replies.

    Picture: Arthur Roche, © wikicommons, CC BY-SA, #newsPowyeshazj

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    What is it about the Mass of the Ages these modernists fear?






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    More Virtue Signaling from Bergoglio & Apostates. He getting to ready to restrict the TLM. As usual he won't "forbid" it....He'll just make it impossible to comply with the New Rules....






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    Well, we knew this was coming.





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    But the faithful aren't "passive". The Arch-Bishop betrays his ignorance. The faithful are busy praying, which is silent participation.





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    10 Bucks says he's gαy.





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    Our church has a list of 20 jobs the faithful are expected to complete. 6 of those jobs are liturgical functions and most parishioners volunteer for these roles that the priest alone should fulfil. Whilst all the cleaning jobs rightfully suited to the faithful are mostly vacant.





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    Your Novus Ordo is more protestant than catholic.





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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #1 on: February 23, 2021, 06:32:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953 on February 23, 2021, 04:59:02 PM
    Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops



    Archbishop Arthur Roche, the anti-Catholic Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, who has been sidelining now retired Cardinal Sarah, has launched an attack on the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM).

    UnaVoceScotland.org (February 21) published the English translation of a February 19, 2020 essay written by Roche which was forwarded to all bishops.

    The essay makes the unlikely claim that the New Mass is an "authentic development" of the Roman Rite, and calls its implementation an "ecclesiastical duty" - although nobody follows the Novus Ordo which is only used as an excuse for empty liturgical experiments.

    Just looking at this Roche, I suspect him of sơdơmy ... has that look about him, the way his mouth is.  I wouldn't leave my sons alone with him.

    In any case, this notion above that "nobody follows the Novus Ordo" is important.  There was a Jesuit priest who adlibbed his Mass, making up the "Canon" (aka "Anaphora") as he went along.  So I asked a few priests if that was OK.  They said, sure, it's permitted.  So I asked them:  "Well, what if I were a priest and adlibbed the Canon, and the rest of the Mass, and it just so happened to exactly match the Tridentine Mass."  Silence.  You see, THAT was "forbidden" ... but anything else goes.
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #2 on: February 23, 2021, 07:07:59 PM »
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    • I hope he has fun in 20 years with his nearly-empty diocese.

    And you could count the number of bishops right now on one hand that aren't sodomites. This Protestant, very human-centered way of liturgy attracts the self-centered and the disordered.
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #3 on: February 23, 2021, 08:36:58 PM »
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
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    • What if militant traditional Catholics organized from all over the world, to meet at St. Peter's Square for three days (Friday, Saturday & Sunday)




    Their purpose:  To protest the non Catholic, heretical atrocities of the Francis papacy,

    Their methods:  Daily & Nightly Rosary Processions.


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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #5 on: February 25, 2021, 06:22:30 AM »
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    • How would you get there without a Covid vaccine to fly to Rome?

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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #6 on: February 25, 2021, 06:57:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on February 23, 2021, 10:12:35 PM
    What if militant traditional Catholics organized from all over the world, to meet at St. Peter's Square for three days (Friday, Saturday & Sunday)
    That's not the worst idea by far… would this fit with Fatima? Anything? ;)


    Quote from: Tallinn Trad on February 25, 2021, 06:22:30 AM
    How would you get there without a CÖVÌD ναccιnє to fly to Rome?
    We Europeans could take the land route, for you Americans though… you'd have to build a little Kon-Tiki raft to to sail across the Atlantic! With a templar flag as canvas of course.
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #7 on: February 25, 2021, 07:32:54 AM »
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    Roche tells the joke that the Novus Ordo contains “more sacrificial vocabulary than was the case in the 1570 Missal”
    That's true, but it's the wrong sacrifice.  The new mass/freemasons subtly replaced Christ's unbloody Sacrifice of the Cross with the protestant-minded "sacrifice" of Christ giving Himself to us at Holy Thursday.  This is the true doctrinal error of the new mass.  This is what makes it anti-catholic and protestant.  That's why the Modernists call it a "meal" or a "communion banquet" - because they are focused on Holy Thursday.
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    What makes the new mass immoral is, in addition to already ignoring His suffering, passion and death on Calvary, then the modernists introduced impiety, irreverence, and mockery to their service, which blasphemes Our Lord further.
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #8 on: February 25, 2021, 12:22:45 PM »
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    • What makes the new mass immoral is, in addition to already ignoring His suffering, passion and death on Calvary, then the modernists introduced impiety, irreverence, and mockery to their service, which blasphemes Our Lord further.


    And removed any references to Our Blessed Mother!
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #9 on: February 25, 2021, 12:30:46 PM »
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    • The Crisis in the Church has never been deeper or more grave.

    And THIS is the time period the SSPX says, "enough is enough! Time to place ourselves under Papal control, time to get fully regularized! If our founder +ABL were still alive, he would certainly understand!"

    Are they ABSOLUTELY INSANE?
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
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    • Our Founder is Jesus Christ and He is very much alive.  

    Thank You Matthew for your "enough is enough."
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    Re: Vatican Attacks Latin Mass In Letter To all Bishops
    « Reply #11 on: February 25, 2021, 02:46:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on February 25, 2021, 12:30:46 PM
    The Crisis in the Church has never been deeper or more grave.

    And THIS is the time period the SSPX says, "enough is enough! Time to place ourselves under Papal control, time to get fully regularized! If our founder +ABL were still alive, he would certainly understand!"

    Are they ABSOLUTELY INSANE?
    They are Masonic.  
    It’s the only explanation.
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